Nowt Left In The Coffers Say Scc

[ads36 217]

I agree : both / all parties are more than capable of massive, damaging, ****-ups.

 

but this particular **** up is down to the Conservatives. and they've had 12 years to re-think it.

 

That SCC is running into budget difficulties, is not the fault of Council management.

 

 

[harvey19 541]

4 hours ago, Resident said:

 

who realised the magical money tree that Liebour had been spending from didn't exist. 

Who was it that lead us into a war we couldn't affored because his best friend, George, asked him to? 
Who was it that spent 00s of millions of public money bailing out private financial companies? 
Who was it that got the worst possible terms for the public in those deals?
Who was it that sold our gold reserves when they were at their lowest prices?
Who was it that campaigned against PFI then when elected ramped up the rate in which they were used, beyond the original Conservative set limits?
Who was it that campaigned on the promise of undoing some of the mistakes of the previous Conservative administrations then in THIRTEEN years of power, didn't reverse a single Conservative policy decision? 

Time to take off the red-rose tinted glasses my good man. The Labour you once knew died with Bliar. 

Thank you.

[dave_the_m 61]

5 hours ago, Resident said:

Time to take off the red-rose tinted glasses my good man. The Labour you once knew died with Bliar. 

There are many things the Blair/Brown government did which I didn't approve of. On the other hand:

 

At the time of the world-wide financial crash in 2008, the UK national debt was lower as a percentage of GDP than when Labour came into power. At that point, the UK had experienced the longest ever period of economic growth. Also we saw during that time: the biggest redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor since the Atlee Government; a 6% real-terms year on year growth in NHS funding; huge investment in education; constitutional reforms such as devolved Scottish and Welsh assemblies, removing most hereditary peers from the House of Laws, the Human Rights Act, civil partnerships, and of course the Good Friday Agreement.

 

After the financial crash, the government stopped banks going under. This would have meant that  literally overnight, millions of people could no longer get access to the cash in their bank account or pay bills etc. The recovery plan the G20 followed was largely the work of Gordon Brown. By the time Labour lost the election in 2010, the economy was back in growth, and had it been let continue to grow for a few years, the deficit would have been reduced and the national debt shrunk back down to pre-2008 levels as a percentage of GDP.

 

Instead, the Tories got in, cut everything, strangled the economic recovery, and we got 10 years of austerity.

[S35_2o21 32]

21 hours ago, dave_the_m said:

There are many things the Blair/Brown government did which I didn't approve of. On the other hand:

 

At the time of the world-wide financial crash in 2008, the UK national debt was lower as a percentage of GDP than when Labour came into power. At that point, the UK had experienced the longest ever period of economic growth. Also we saw during that time: the biggest redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor since the Atlee Government; a 6% real-terms year on year growth in NHS funding; huge investment in education; constitutional reforms such as devolved Scottish and Welsh assemblies, removing most hereditary peers from the House of Laws, the Human Rights Act, civil partnerships, and of course the Good Friday Agreement.

 

After the financial crash, the government stopped banks going under. This would have meant that  literally overnight, millions of people could no longer get access to the cash in their bank account or pay bills etc. The recovery plan the G20 followed was largely the work of Gordon Brown. By the time Labour lost the election in 2010, the economy was back in growth, and had it been let continue to grow for a few years, the deficit would have been reduced and the national debt shrunk back down to pre-2008 levels as a percentage of GDP.

 

Instead, the Tories got in, cut everything, strangled the economic recovery, and we got 10 years of austerity.

^^ times a million. In the early days of the Cameron Government, Local Authorities bore a high proportion of the public sector cuts. Presumably, the minister at the time (Eric Pickles I believe), wished to curry favour with the PM.

 

It is convenient to slash a budget for a local authority, and then blame said local authority for making cuts to services. Ditto NHS England, CCG's/ICBs across the country, the Education sector, DWP, the Prison service etc etc. Responsibility with no accountability is the motto of this government. 

[hackey lad 3,965]

On 08/08/2022 at 11:34, ads36 said:

I agree : both / all parties are more than capable of massive, damaging, ****-ups.

 

but this particular **** up is down to the Conservatives. and they've had 12 years to re-think it.

 

That SCC is running into budget difficulties, is not the fault of Council management.

 

 

Council is not at fault, at all 😂

[Bargepole23 337]

22 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

Council is not at fault, at all 😂

Nope, Tory voters are.

 

Like you.

[hackey lad 3,965]

3 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said:

Nope, Tory voters are.

 

Like you.

Yup . I’ve spent the councils budget

[Resident 1,185]

6 hours ago, Bargepole23 said:

Nope, Tory voters are.

 

Like you.

Yup, Tories spent a LABOUR council's budget. 

Come on Barge, time for your meds again. 

[Bargepole23 337]

9 hours ago, Resident said:

Yup, Tories spent a LABOUR council's budget. 

Come on Barge, time for your meds again. 

Good that you can laugh it up whilst voting for a Tory government that slashed LA funding and left those that depended on LA social care to suffer the consequences.

 

Good that you can laugh it up whilst voting for a Tory government that cared more about its own infighting and its donors than looking after the people of this country who need its help the most.

[hackey lad 3,965]

4 hours ago, Bargepole23 said:

Good that you can laugh it up whilst voting for a Tory government that slashed LA funding and left those that depended on LA social care to suffer the consequences.

 

Good that you can laugh it up whilst voting for a Tory government that cared more about its own infighting and its donors than looking after the people of this country who need its help the most.

Good that you can defend this Council whenever They waste our money. Good that you can defend them no matter what 

[Anna B 1,412]

The government shouldn't pile more responsibilities on the councils, starve them of money, then blame them when the councils can't manage. 

 

We are now trying out the the committee model of governance in Sheffield, with all the political parties concerned in the decisions, (in theory) which came in in April/May.

Let's see if it works and if it results in any improvements.

 

The council website is already improved and is more accessible, so everyone can have their say.

[Gormenghast 59]

6 minutes ago, Anna B said:

We are now trying out the the committee model of governance in Sheffield, with all the political parties concerned in the decisions, (in theory) which came in in April/May.

 

When you say "in theory" Anna what do you mean?