Bus Services May Be Reduced By One Third.

[Guest busdriver1]

20 minutes ago, Andy C said:

Basically what was SYPTE is now part of SYMCA and the mayor is their new boss so as I say, just being pedantic!

same idiots, same jobs, different name on their payslips that MAY have increased to represent their increased role. 

[Jeffrey Shaw 90]

2 hours ago, Andy C said:

just to be pedantic....

 

it isn't SYPTE anymore, it is SYMCA (South Yorkshire Mayoral Combined Authority). The organisation led by the mayor elect, Oliver Coppard, which is responsible for a number of things in the region including transport.

 

But the link that you provided takes us to a website at the foot of which is a link to- guess what?- SYPTE!

https://sypte.co.uk/

[dutch 68]

Would not mind lesser or fuller buses from environmental aspects to reduce pollution. But its all about money and profits again what seems to be the real focus.

Council SYMCA will be only worse than SYPTE like bus driver very clearly said. 

But I can say one thing and that is council does not give or renew disability passes as easy as SYPTE did. 

[Resident 1,193]

7 hours ago, dutch said:

Would not mind lesser or fuller buses from environmental aspects to reduce pollution. But its all about money and profits again what seems to be the real focus.

Council SYMCA will be only worse than SYPTE like bus driver very clearly said. 

But I can say one thing and that is council does not give or renew disability passes as easy as SYPTE did. 

In one respect that's actually a good thing. I knew of an individual a few years ago who was given a disabled with carer pass purely because she REFUSED to learn basic English despite being resident here for 10+ years but in the same financial period refused several truly disabled applicants for "not meeting criteria"

[Gran54 13]

As from next week they are removing the 135 bus in Walkley and are doing a ‘ village’ 2 hourly service on weekdays and no weekend service..They cutting the 135 bus cause say trams are easily accessible for people of Walkley andUpperthorpe.But what about the elderly and disabled.They want to try hiking up the hills from the tram  it’s not an easy task 

[Guest busdriver1]

1 hour ago, Gran54 said:

As from next week they are removing the 135 bus in Walkley and are doing a ‘ village’ 2 hourly service on weekdays and no weekend service..They cutting the 135 bus cause say trams are easily accessible for people of Walkley andUpperthorpe.But what about the elderly and disabled.They want to try hiking up the hills from the tram  it’s not an easy task 

But it means the fit and active under 21's can get cheap bus travel surely thats more important?

[HeHasRisen 3,403]

1 hour ago, Gran54 said:

As from next week they are removing the 135 bus in Walkley and are doing a ‘ village’ 2 hourly service on weekdays and no weekend service..They cutting the 135 bus cause say trams are easily accessible for people of Walkley andUpperthorpe.But what about the elderly and disabled.They want to try hiking up the hills from the tram  it’s not an easy task 

On the return journey could you not get the 10/10A to Crookesmoor Rd and walk down?

 

The 95/95A still runs through Walkley also doesnt it?

Edited July 1, 2022 by HeHasRisen

[Anna B 1,414]

21 hours ago, RollingJ said:

Anna, it isn't the councils fault -this time - bus services are mainly operated on a commercial basis, and if the operator makes a loss, they apply to cancel the service.

 

When buses are privatised as a commercial concern it's all about profit rather than service, and we have no control over what they do.

I don't know why they were privatised in the first place, but surely this is a lesson in why they shouldn't have been. Let#s bring them back inder the control of the council, provide a public service and keep control.

[HeHasRisen 3,403]

5 minutes ago, Anna B said:

When buses are privatised as a commercial concern it's all about profit rather than service, and we have no control over what they do.

I don't know why they were privatised in the first place, but surely this is a lesson in why they shouldn't have been. Let#s bring them back inder the control of the council, provide a public service and keep control.

OK, how much  extra would you like to pay for that to happen for the current service to be maintained, either in increased fare costs or extra taxation?

 

The world is a much different place from when local authorities ran bus companies, the social care burden these days is off the scale.  Also look at how much TfL in London keeps asking for in terms of bailouts. Oh and Covid happened which has changed working patterns probably for ever.

Edited July 1, 2022 by HeHasRisen

[RollingJ 2,040]

21 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

OK, how much  extra would you like to pay for that to happen for the current service to be maintained, either in increased fare costs or extra taxation?

 

The world is a much different place from when local authorities ran bus companies, the social care burden these days is off the scale.  Also look at how much TfL in London keeps asking for in terms of bailouts. Oh and Covid happened which has changed working patterns probably for ever.

Well said, HHR. Council tax would rocket, they would still have to find the drivers - which commercial operators can't, so would they - unlikely.

Not 100% certain of the figures, but from memory, TfL have been bailed out to the tune of £6-8 million over the past financial year, and they are still screaming for more, and reducing services.

[RollingJ 2,040]

29 minutes ago, Anna B said:

When buses are privatised as a commercial concern it's all about profit rather than service, and we have no control over what they do.

I don't know why they were privatised in the first place, but surely this is a lesson in why they shouldn't have been. Let#s bring them back inder the control of the council, provide a public service and keep control.

Of course a private company has to make a profit, otherwise they go out of business and disappear - along with the service.

The trouble with them being a council provided 'service' is that they are then used politically, and 'we' still have no 'control', and they are still subject to Traffic Commissioner regulation.

[hackey lad 3,976]

Sheffield Labour MP Louise Haigh in the commons yesterday saying in the whole of S Yorkshire there will be only 4 buses after 10 pm , is that true because I don’t believe her