RJRB 688 #13 Posted June 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Findlay said: The first line of the BBC piece is contrasting to the headline. Gen Sir Patrick Sanders, who started the job last week, addressed all ranks and civil servants in an internal message on 16 June. Lets not get our knickers in a twist eh? What is the significance of it being an “internal” message when it is then leaked or then publicised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest #14 Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) There is absolutely nothing inflammatory in his statement. In fact, it's very realistic and spot on. There are bad times ahead. Ignoring the fact won't make it disappear Edited June 20, 2022 by Guest . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick 866 #15 Posted June 21, 2022 Then. there's this laugher from Boris tacked on to the above referenced article. "Before Russia's invasion, Prime Minister Boris Johnson told MPs last November that he believed the era of tanks rolling through Europe was behind us. Challenged over defence spending in light of growing Russian aggression, Mr Johnson said at the time: "We have to recognise that the old concepts of fighting big tank battles on European land mass are over and there are other better things we should be investing in." He said enhanced air combat systems and cyber strategies were "how warfare in the future is going to be fought... and that is where we need to be". Weelcome to reality, Boris! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla 510 #16 Posted June 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, trastrick said: Then. there's this laugher from Boris tacked on to the above referenced article. "Before Russia's invasion, Prime Minister Boris Johnson told MPs last November that he believed the era of tanks rolling through Europe was behind us. Populist leader gets it wrong SHOCKER! https://www.itv.com/news/2016-05-09/boris-johnson-brexit-would-not-cause-ww3-in-europe Not a cause, but certainly part of the plan... You've got to laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus 540 #17 Posted June 21, 2022 57 minutes ago, trastrick said: Challenged over defence spending in light of growing Russian aggression, Mr Johnson said at the time: "We have to recognise that the old concepts of fighting big tank battles on European land mass are over and there are other better things we should be investing in." Much as I hate to say Boris is right - he is on this. The Ukrainians have amply demonstrated just how vulnerable tanks are to weapons such as NLAWs. Tanks might have an advantage in wide open plains where people with NLAWs can't get near enough to use them but then they are sitting ducks to A10s and drone based weapons. The part of that quote you should be focusing on is "We have to recognise that the old concepts of fighting big tank battles on European land mass are over and there are other better things we should be investing in." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick 866 #18 Posted June 21, 2022 Just now, altus said: Much as I hate to say Boris is right - he is on this. The Ukrainians have amply demonstrated just how vulnerable tanks are to weapons such as NLAWs. Tanks might have an advantage in wide open plains where people with NLAWs can't get near enough to use them but then they are sitting ducks to A10s and drone based weapons. The part of that quote you should be focusing on is "We have to recognise that the old concepts of fighting big tank battles on European land mass are over and there are other better things we should be investing n'in." Doesn't matter what "better things" you should be investing in, if you're not willing to use them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...