Colin Foster 70 #61 Posted May 6, 2022 Well quelle surprise Labour wins the South Yorkshire mayoral vote! I nearly spoilt my vote as I just don't see the point in voting in an election that even a slug would win if they were standing for labour! Disappointing the Lib Dems lost Crookes and Crosspool but not surprising, there seems to be a growing number of champagne socialists in the area. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cgksheff 44 #62 Posted May 6, 2022 2 hours ago, hackey lad said: Lot of truth in that The real strength of a council is their understanding and ability to control their civil servants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ms Macbeth 70 #63 Posted May 8, 2022 Sorry to be pedantic, but council officers are public servants not civil servants. And control? Really? How would that work? The selection of senior employees with proven knowledge and experience in their fields is key to council success IMO. They must also have the right management skills to employ and develop staff delivering services. Councillors are mainly elected on the basis of the party they represent, and may have little experience of actually running a business, especially one the size of the council. In reality they rely on the professionals they employ. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Thorpist 71 #64 Posted May 8, 2022 On 06/05/2022 at 07:13, HumbleNarrator said: Yes, voting for the Greens will cause Neil Parish to un-watch that porn. 🙄 It's about time minimum IQ levels were introduced before people are allowed to vote. I assume you think you reach the minimum IQ level . Of course we could change the law so only the wealthy land owners in society could make laws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookesey 585 #65 Posted May 8, 2022 On 06/05/2022 at 07:13, HumbleNarrator said: Yes, voting for the Greens will cause Neil Parish to un-watch that porn. 🙄 It's about time minimum IQ levels were introduced before people are allowed to vote. Yes I voted in favour of Brexit and have regretted it ever since, I’ve actually banned myself from voting until I’m allowed to make good this stupid error, which would probably require me to become a centenarian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ms Macbeth 70 #66 Posted May 8, 2022 On 06/05/2022 at 17:32, Anna B said: Maybe the new 'committee' style set up, which will be more representative of the vote, will make a difference. Something needs to... Committee style was the norm before the cabinet system was introduced. Was it any better? People still complained. Our long serving Labour councillor has lost her seat to the Greens, exactly the same as at the last election. I bet a lot of local voters haven’t studied their policies, their popularity may stem from them visibly organising and litter picks, and collecting for foodbanks. They also have a local online presence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sadbrewer 20 #67 Posted May 8, 2022 17 hours ago, Ms Macbeth said: Sorry to be pedantic, but council officers are public servants not civil servants. And control? Really? How would that work? The selection of senior employees with proven knowledge and experience in their fields is key to council success IMO. They must also have the right management skills to employ and develop staff delivering services. Councillors are mainly elected on the basis of the party they represent, and may have little experience of actually running a business, especially one the size of the council. In reality they rely on the professionals they employ. Whilst I understand your reasoning, I would just point out that it's rare for Council Officers to have ever run a business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ms Macbeth 70 #68 Posted May 9, 2022 7 hours ago, sadbrewer said: Whilst I understand your reasoning, I would just point out that it's rare for Council Officers to have ever run a business. You’re right, but they are expected to be properly qualified, and experienced. No evidence of ability in different fields is required of elected members (even though they may have great qualifications and experience). Councils employ lawyers, social workers, engineers, town planners, registrars and other professionals, all of whom (at least in theory) are recruited for their expertise which councillors rely on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spilldig 175 #69 Posted May 9, 2022 On 08/05/2022 at 08:16, crookesey said: Yes I voted in favour of Brexit and have regretted it ever since, I’ve actually banned myself from voting until I’m allowed to make good this stupid error, which would probably require me to become a centenarian. I really think we wouldn't have had brexit if it wasn't for postal voting. I think they were so obsessed that they shot themselves in the foot with that one because all the scare tactics came out after a vast amount of people had voted long before voting day. On 06/05/2022 at 16:43, HumbleNarrator said: I'd genuinely love to know exactly what it is that voters in Sheffield imagine the Labour council will do for them. I suspect that many of them are so thick they don't compute a distinction between local and national elections. I'll bet many of them shuffled along to the polling station going "lets get Boris ahht, lets get Boris ahht!" Sadly true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Organgrinder 1,943 #70 Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) On 06/05/2022 at 16:43, HumbleNarrator said: I'd genuinely love to know exactly what it is that voters in Sheffield imagine the Labour council will do for them. I suspect that many of them are so thick they don't compute a distinction between local and national elections. I'll bet many of them shuffled along to the polling station going "lets get Boris ahht, lets get Boris ahht!" So would I. I would also genuinely like to know why the voters should think that a Tory council would do any better for them too, bearing in mind, a Tory government who are still looking after their rich friends whilst the poor struggle. I also suspect that many who consider themselves more intelligent than those who have different opinions, have a lot to learn about intelligence. Edited May 9, 2022 by Organgrinder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...