rudds1   102 #1 Posted March 17, 2022 Been on news p and o ferries have laid off at least 800 workers by prerecorded video call only to replace them with agency workers with more redundancies to come   What a poor way to let the staff know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,609 #2 Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Been listening to this on the news - there's more to come out about this company & the way they have treated staff & the taxpayer. The company say they're stony broke but paid millions upon millions to sponsor some golf tournament. Apparently P & O are in breach of an employment law by not consulting workers or RTUs. However they have calculated that the money they will get fined will be less than going through the process. Incredibly cynical move Watch this space.... Edited March 17, 2022 by Mister M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   214 #3 Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mister M said: Been listening to this on the news - there's more to come out about this company & the way they have treated staff & the taxpayer. Watch this space.... Companies have a duty to their share holders. In 2020 P+O laid off 1,100 people and it says it will continue to require forbearance from creditors. This company is just trying to stay-afloat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,609 #4 Posted March 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, El Cid said: Companies have a duty to their share holders. In 2020 P+O laid off 1,100 people and it says it will continue to require forbearance from creditors. This company is just trying to stay-afloat! The reputationable damage may send it under. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Janet24 Â Â 59 #5 Posted March 17, 2022 Pun intended or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol   612 #6 Posted March 17, 2022 So as not to worry people, this does not affect the Cruise Ships. They have sacked- terminated the jobs of 1600 on the ships and another 600 on leave. They are replacing the crews with cheaper South American labour. As the firm is based in Dubai, are flying foreign flag and are hiding behind Maritime Law there is no redundancy pay etc.  P&O ferries have been a failing company for year loosing business to Stena on the Belfast route and Irish Ferries at Dover. With Zebrugge already gone this might be the end of Hull to Rotterdam as well.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,609 #7 Posted March 17, 2022 36 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said: So as not to worry people, this does not affect the Cruise Ships. They have sacked- terminated the jobs of 1600 on the ships and another 600 on leave. They are replacing the crews with cheaper South American labour. As the firm is based in Dubai, are flying foreign flag and are hiding behind Maritime Law there is no redundancy pay etc.  P&O ferries have been a failing company for year loosing business to Stena on the Belfast route and Irish Ferries at Dover. With Zebrugge already gone this might be the end of Hull to Rotterdam as well.   Though they furloughed 1400 of its staff during the pandemic, costing the taxpayer £10m.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
iansheff   86 #8 Posted March 17, 2022 Dubai: The Dubai owned ports operator DP World recorded a sizeable 26 per cent increase in 2021 revenues to $10.77 billion, The profit attributed to shareholders (before separately disclosed items) comes to $1.1 billion.  Dubai's DP World revenues hit a record $10.77b for '21 | Markets – Gulf News Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,609 #9 Posted March 17, 2022 If the Government don't act against this, then I'm sure there will be other companies looking at the P & O situation, thinking if they can get away with it, why can't we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ECCOnoob   1,021 #10 Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, iansheff said: Dubai: The Dubai owned ports operator DP World recorded a sizeable 26 per cent increase in 2021 revenues to $10.77 billion, The profit attributed to shareholders (before separately disclosed items) comes to $1.1 billion.  Dubai's DP World revenues hit a record $10.77b for '21 | Markets – Gulf News It's certainly a shock and very upsetting for those poor workers affected. But the harsh reality is corporations do not make record profits like that without being absolutely ruthless in their business operations the type of which we are seeing with P&O.  Fact is, the P&O Ferries subsidy has made a catastrophic loss reaching the hundred millions. Something had to be done and when a single part of the body becomes infected the decision has to be made to chop it off before it it ruins the rest of the system. Surely for those in dire straits affected by this, a job with either the agency or whoever takes over the operations is better than no job at all.  Whatever the public perception and PR impact, it is clear that it was simply not sustainable to carry on with such losses. The alternative would be another Flybr or Thomas Cook or Debenhams with the entire company collapsing.   I found the boycotting quite interesting, most people travelling on ferry services are focused on simply the first available one suitable for their time schedule. Dover/calais and Hull /Rotterdam particularly doesn't realistically have masses of competing suppliers so for all the hot air and outrage on Twitter I suspect that come holiday season most will forgive, forget and be back to status quo.  The public are fickle. Seen it all before with the whole 'Boycott Amazon', 'Boycott Tesco', 'Boycott British Airways' 'Boycott Southern Rail'.  It's business. Whether we like to admit it or not we average people in the street are just as ruthless and more than happy to exploit whenever it suits us. Edited March 17, 2022 by ECCOnoob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B   1,401 #11 Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, El Cid said: Companies have a duty to their share holders. In 2020 P+O laid off 1,100 people and it says it will continue to require forbearance from creditors. This company is just trying to stay-afloat! Surely the company also has a duty to its workers, some of whom have worked for the company for 30+ years. Basically this is part of the global race to the bottom for workers.  The UK has one of the highest costs of living in the world, and rising rapidly, yet workers are now expecting workers to work for peanuts.  I would imagine Hull isn't overwhelmed with job vacancies at the moment and there'll be even less going forward. This will be devastating.  Just how are people supposed to manage? Edited March 17, 2022 by Anna B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,609 #12 Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Anna B said: Surely the company also has a duty to its workers, some of whom have worked for the company for 30+ years. Basically this is part of the global race to the bottom for workers. The UK has one of the highest costs of living in the world, and rising rapidly, yet workers are now expecting workers to work for peanuts. I would imagine Hull isn't overwhelmed with job vacancies at the moment and there'll be even less going forward.  How are people supposed to manage? Some people travelled from much further afield than Hull to do their work only to be told they're not needed anymore. No train fare home provided.  Basically we're going back to the 1930s, where men queued up at the docks in the morning, and if they weren't needed, they were sent packing. Edited March 17, 2022 by Mister M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...