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Been reported mp,s have voted themselves a pay rise of over £2000.   In a time when people are struggling to pay bills etc is this wrong ?

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2 hours ago, rudds1 said:

Been reported mp,s have voted themselves a pay rise of over £2000.   In a time when people are struggling to pay bills etc is this wrong ?

 Nice when you can, hypocrisy still rules.

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Our Labour ones won't take it , Wait for the Star headlines ,they are behind the people aren't they /

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Zarah Sultana (Labour Coventry South) has said she is donating hers - 

 

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1 minute ago, SFBeca said:

Zarah Sultana (Labour Coventry South) has said she is donating hers - 

 

Good on her ,an honest MP .

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4 hours ago, rudds1 said:

Been reported mp,s have voted themselves a pay rise of over £2000.   In a time when people are struggling to pay bills etc is this wrong ?

Maybe. But stripping away the emotive language and headline figures and it equates to around 2.5 to 3% increase. For anyone in White Collar professions, such is pretty industry-standard I would say.

 

I'm sure they'll be lots out there who demand they don't deserve it but ultimately its a salaried job and those come with increments.

 

It's not exactly the worst percentage increase I've seen.  Interesting, when the NHS staff were offered a 3% pay increase recently the Unions immediately slagged it off, dismissed it as a derisory amount and demanded much more......  maybe MPs are being modest.

 

As for the comments from the labour MP moronicaly stating its a "..Tory cost-of-living crisis..."   Maybe if the silly mare opened her eyes as to what's been going on in the world for the past few years she will soon realise exactly what the problem is and why its something which all parties have had responsibility in.

 

Yes good on her for donating but nothing but a tactical political point scoring move.  

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Both Boris and Keir have said that MP's wages shouldn't go up at all prior to the independantly set announcement 

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5 hours ago, rudds1 said:

Been reported mp,s have voted themselves a pay rise of over £2000.   In a time when people are struggling to pay bills etc is this wrong ?

A quick Google shows that MPs pay is slightly below inflation over the past 10 years.

Since the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority took control of MPs' pay in 2010, salaries are linked directly to average changes in the public sector. This year's rise is above inflation.

Not sure why this years rise would be above inflation, that will mean the public sector should do the same?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/388885/mp-salary-uk/

https://www.statista.com/chart/17547/short-history-of-mp-pay-rises-uk/

 

I work for my local authority, we havnt agreed our pay rise for last year. The Government announced a pay freeze, but that never happened.

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14 minutes ago, sheffbag said:

Both Boris and Keir have said that MP's wages shouldn't go up at all prior to the independantly set announcement 

Boris and Keir say a lot of things, usually based on what they think people want to hear. Bet they won't turn the payrise down though, or do anything about it...

 

It's the wrong time for this. Let's be more generous to the lowest paid workers, many of which do the most useful jobs that we can't do without as the pandemic showed.

 

And while we're at it, why are pay rises always a percentage?

2% of a very low wage is next to nothing, and they will continue to struggle. While 2% of the best paid salaries is a considerable amount, and makes the recipiant even richer. So the pay gap grows even wider.   

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33 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Boris and Keir say a lot of things, usually based on what they think people want to hear. Bet they won't turn the payrise down though, or do anything about it...

 

It's the wrong time for this. Let's be more generous to the lowest paid workers, many of which do the most useful jobs that we can't do without as the pandemic showed.

 

And while we're at it, why are pay rises always a percentage?

2% of a very low wage is next to nothing, and they will continue to struggle. While 2% of the best paid salaries is a considerable amount, and makes the recipiant even richer. So the pay gap grows even wider.   

Because how else do you fairly apply a wage rise across the board when you have got multiple different grades of staff on multiple different levels of salary.

 

You don't seriously think it will be acceptable in a large organisation offering annual increments to boldly say that the office junior gets £2,000 rise because they are the lowest paid salary and the department manager gets just £25 rise because they earn the highest salary.  Just what sort of conflict do you think would arise when lower grades in a firm could suddenly overtake the earnings of those people on higher level grades.  It's nonsense.   There is already enough friction going off in companies without fixed pay grades when people undertaking exactly the same job are on different pay just because they were bold enough to demand more at an interview.

 

There is always going to be gaps. Low skilled low paid jobs do not give the same wealth and lifestyle of high paid, high-level executive jobs.... SHOCK HORROR!  

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1 hour ago, Anna B said:

Boris and Keir say a lot of things, usually based on what they think people want to hear. Bet they won't turn the payrise down though, or do anything about it...

 

It's the wrong time for this. Let's be more generous to the lowest paid workers, many of which do the most useful jobs that we can't do without as the pandemic showed.

 

And while we're at it, why are pay rises always a percentage?

2% of a very low wage is next to nothing, and they will continue to struggle. While 2% of the best paid salaries is a considerable amount, and makes the recipiant even richer. So the pay gap grows even wider.   

Say it Anna , come on , you know  you want to

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55 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

Because how else do you fairly apply a wage rise across the board when you have got multiple different grades of staff on multiple different levels of salary.

 

You don't seriously think it will be acceptable in a large organisation offering annual increments to boldly say that the office junior gets £2,000 rise because they are the lowest paid salary and the department manager gets just £25 rise because they earn the highest salary.  Just what sort of conflict do you think would arise when lower grades in a firm could suddenly overtake the earnings of those people on higher level grades.  It's nonsense.  

 

The local authority pay rise was 2.75% for the lowest paid, 1.75% for everyone else.

Pay awards should be based on merit, HGV drivers should get more in the present shortage, I am sure they reward them in some way.

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