Ukraine: Invasion Imminent?

[L00b 441]

3 hours ago, Padders said:

Looks look like Lithuania  could be in trouble.....

Russia has threatened them with "Serious consequences) 

“Serious consequences” for what? Conducting a ‘special access denial operation’?

 

Sauce, goose, gander, etc.

[Guest makapaka]

5 hours ago, Jim117 said:

Serious consequences for Russia too if they try to attack a Nato member. Looks like the master strategist in the Kremlin has put himself between a rock and a hard place.

Excellent - we can all be vaporised when Lithuania gets attacked. 
 

where’s my tablets……..?

[hackey lad 3,955]

9 minutes ago, makapaka said:

Excellent - we can all be vaporised when Lithuania gets attacked. 
 

where’s my tablets……..?

I think you need them , keep safe 

[geared 303]

17 hours ago, Padders said:

Looks look like Lithuania  could be in trouble.....

Russia has threatened them with "Serious consequences) 

 

I thought it was amusing that when pressed on what that might mean the Russian response was "we need to think about it"

Is abit telling that the first response to a Russian threat now is "and you'll do what exactly??"

 

The big bully has been seen to be a fat mess, no-one is taking crap off them anymore.

Edited June 22, 2022 by geared

[trastrick 866]

Just now, geared said:

 

I thought it was amusing that when pressed on what that might mean the Russian response was "we need to think about it"

Is abit telling that the first response to a Russian threat now is "and you'll do what exactly??"

 

The big bully has been seen to be a fat mess, no-one is taking crap off them anymore.

Too bad the EU is still buying the War Criminal's Fossil Fuel Oil and Gas.

 

Financing Russia's invasion of the Ukraine!

[hackey lad 3,955]

1 minute ago, trastrick said:

Too bad the EU is still buying the War Criminal's Fossil Fuel Oil and Gas.

 

Financing Russia's invasion of the Ukraine!

No , they are financing Putin and his associates , pension plan 

[L00b 441]

1 hour ago, hackey lad said:

No , they are financing Putin and his associates , pension plan 

Too bad European countries and the US have variously frozen and seized billions upon billions of Putin and associates’ €$£ accounts, properties and assets; continue to do so every passing day; and even have started earmarking them (-legally) to fund Ukraine’s eventual reconstruction.

 

So much for the ‘pension plan’: Putin is destroying ever more of his by the day.

 

As for the EU still buying oil and gas, only a cretin without the barest understanding of economics and geopolitics would argue that Europe should have halted its Russian imports overnight 4 months ago. It takes time to decouple and shift energy supplies at a national scale without precipitating a recession, never mind coordinating the exercise over 40-odd countries that make up much of the G7/G20.

 

Anyone who fingerpoints the EU countries’ purchases of Russian oil and gas, without acknowledging the basic point above, never mind acknowledging the non-trivial reduction in such EU imports over the last 3 months (several large EU member states already do not import any gas from Russia whatsoever anymore) and which is still reducing, is simply playing Putin’s disinformation game for undermining western unity over Ukraine.

 

Whether they do so deliberately or not, they are a Kremlin stooge and helping Putin, and worth only your disdain.

[trastrick 866]

1 hour ago, L00b said:

Too bad European countries and the US have variously frozen and seized billions upon billions of Putin and associates’ €$£ accounts, properties and assets; continue to do so every passing day; and even have started earmarking them (-legally) to fund Ukraine’s eventual reconstruction.

 

So much for the ‘pension plan’: Putin is destroying ever more of his by the day.

 

As for the EU still buying oil and gas, only a cretin without the barest understanding of economics and geopolitics would argue that Europe should have halted its Russian imports overnight 4 months ago. It takes time to decouple and shift energy supplies at a national scale without precipitating a recession, never mind coordinating the exercise over 40-odd countries that make up much of the G7/G20.

 

Anyone who fingerpoints the EU countries’ purchases of Russian oil and gas, without acknowledging the basic point above, never mind acknowledging the non-trivial reduction in such EU imports over the last 3 months (several large EU member states already do not import any gas from Russia whatsoever anymore) and which is still reducing, is simply playing Putin’s disinformation game for undermining western unity over Ukraine.

 

Whether they do so deliberately or not, they are a Kremlin stooge and helping Putin, and worth only your disdain.

Lol

 

Here's a somewhat wider world view from the "Cretins", "Kremlin Stooges" and "Putin Helpers" at the New York Times:

 

Move to Choke Russia's Oil Exports Boomerangs - Kim & Krauss, New York Times

https://dnyuz.com/2022/06/21/western-move-to-choke-russias-oil-exports-boomerangs-for-now/

 

"SEOUL — When the United States and European Union moved to curtail purchases of Russian fossil fuels this year, they hoped it would help make the Russian invasion of Ukraine so economically painful for Moscow that President Vladimir V. Putin would be forced to abandon it.

 

"That prospect now seems remote at best.

 

"China and India, the world’s most populous countries, have swooped in to buy roughly the same volume of Russian oil that would have gone to the West. Oil prices are so high that Russia is making even more money now from sales than it did before the war began four months ago. And its once-flailing currency has surged in value against the dollar.

 

"Russian officials are smirking over what they are calling a spectacular failure to cow Mr. Putin. And the economic pain the oil boycott was meant to inflict is reverberating not so much in Moscow but in the West, especially the United States, where skyrocketing oil prices pose a potent threat to President Biden less than halfway into his term."

 

Don't give up your day job! 

 

"It takes time to decouple and shift energy supplies at a national scale without precipitating a recession, never mind coordinating the exercise over 40-odd countries that make up much of the G7/G20".

 

Aw! I almost feel sorry for them! Getting the Ukrainians to do their dirty work is so much simpler, and less an economic inconvenience!  Can't risk a recession in the West, now can we?

 

Let's hope the hapless Ukrainians can hang on for another year or so, while the EU bureaucrats sort out all the logistics, like who gets to sit with who for the opening speeches, and making sure the menu is suitable for the diverse group.

 

It's one thing to talk about the principles of liberty and freedom.

 

Quite another to actually act on them.

 

So who's REALLY helping Putin pay for his war? and who are the folks trading with this evil Tyrant?

 

A glance in the mirror, might offer a clue!

 

Lol

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by trastrick

[Guest]

Apparently, there is a strong resistance movement on occupied parts of Ukraine. Assassinations, sabotage are  daily occurrence.

[L00b 441]

1 hour ago, croat77 said:

Apparently, there is a strong resistance movement on occupied parts of Ukraine. Assassinations, sabotage are  daily occurrence.

Plenty of reports for weeks now, and echoed by western intelligence for the last 2 weeks or so. It was a dead cert, whether by UA SOFs or locals (and the reports pin acts mostly on ex-police/ex-territorials).

Last I’d heard was three Russian soldiers gunned down (1x200’d, 2x wounded) at a cafe terrace in Odessa, yesterday or the day before.

Today’s: “In the Kherson region, partisans disposed of a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, who went over to the side of the Russian military. According to preliminary information, Kovalev was shot dead in the city of Golaya Pristan”
 

Another: “An attempt was made on the life of a collaborator "the head of the military-civilian administration" of Chernobaevka Turulev in the Kherson region. He is in the hospital, - Russian media”

 

 

 

Ukraine was ‘the’ nightmare for the Whermacht in WW2 with partisans, worse than the rest of Russia put together and then some.

 

None of that aptitude has lessened with the years, when one thinks about the fighting strength and resolve of Ukrainians have demonstrated so far.

Edited June 22, 2022 by L00b

[geared 303]

On 22/06/2022 at 11:36, trastrick said:

Too bad the EU is still buying the War Criminal's Fossil Fuel Oil and Gas.

 

Financing Russia's invasion of the Ukraine!

Seen reports online that Russia is going to cut Europe off come winter, spike gas prices and hit economies.

 

Not very good if it's the Russian's ending the trade first and not the EU.

[trastrick 866]

3 hours ago, geared said:

Seen reports online that Russia is going to cut Europe off come winter, spike gas prices and hit economies.

 

Not very good if it's the Russian's ending the trade first and not the EU.

The EU made a deal with the Devil.

 

That never ends well!

 

The Guardian

 

Germany announces emergency plan as Russia chokes gas supplies

Economy minister says cut in deliveries is ‘economic attack on us by Putin’

 

"There’s no point pretending – the throttling of gas deliveries amounts to an economic attack on us by Putin,” said Robert Habeck, the minister for economic and energy affairs. “Putin’s strategy is blatantly to stir insecurity, to drive up prices and to drive a wedge through our society".

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/23/german-announces-emergency-plan-as-russia-chokes-gas-supplies

 

Now these globalist "Paris Accord" signers who lauded China's "promises" and denounced the U.S, aggresive policy on Oil and Gas Production, are hoisted on the petard of reality.

 

Politics 101

 

"Never listen to what politicians say, watch what they do!"

 

The future that would see Fossil Fuels abandoned and a whole world coming together to share the wealth, end all wars, even fine tune the weather a hundred years from now?

 

All gone up in a planet poluting puff of smoke!