Leo Tomlinson 51 #2641 Posted June 30, 2022 Good points , except the 70 years of peace. , In my life time (80 years ) we seem to have been at war with some one almost yearly , from Korea (China really) to Argentina , Egypt , the Arab Countries and so on (we even had a pop at Israel at one time . So real peace in our time I have never seen and doubt very much if I ever will . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick 866 #2642 Posted June 30, 2022 Just now, Leo Tomlinson said: Good points , except the 70 years of peac thee. , In my life time (80 years ) we seem to have been at war with some one almost yearly , from Korea (China really) to Argentina , Egypt , the Arab Countries and so on (we even had a pop at Israel at one time . So real peace in our time I have never seen and doubt very much if I ever will . I was talking about major geopolitical wars between the 2 great Military Powers (now 3) I think you knew that, but here, in the first major European War since WW2, we are getting awfully close! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Leo Tomlinson 51 #2643 Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, trastrick said: I was talking about major geopolitical wars between the 2 great Military Powers (now 3) I think you knew that, but here, in the first major European War since WW2, we are getting awfully close! Yep we are , One puff and we will be gone( on this small Island) , The vast landed Three will maybe escape with some structure intact but us lot in the UK will just be a memory . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,414 #2644 Posted June 30, 2022 UK is sending another £Billion worth of arms to Ukraine. Can we afford it? Is it a gift or a loan? Are we just prolonging the agony, and how long can we continue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookesey 635 #2645 Posted June 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, Anna B said: UK is sending another £Billion worth of arms to Ukraine. Can we afford it? Is it a gift or a loan? Are we just prolonging the agony, and how long can we continue? It’s far cheaper than WW3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b 441 #2646 Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Anna B said: UK is sending another £Billion worth of arms to Ukraine. Can we afford it? Is it a gift or a loan? Are we just prolonging the agony, and how long can we continue? Well, I guess that depends: how’s your Russian coming along? 😏 Edited June 30, 2022 by L00b Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad 3,979 #2647 Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Anna B said: UK is sending another £Billion worth of arms to Ukraine. Can we afford it? Is it a gift or a loan? Are we just prolonging the agony, and how long can we continue? Government does nothing in Ukraine - Why isnt the Government doing something to help these poor people ? , Government sends arms worth £ billion - Can we afford it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hauxwell 243 #2648 Posted June 30, 2022 It would be interesting to know how much other countries are contributing to help Ukraine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest #2649 Posted June 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Anna B said: UK is sending another £Billion worth of arms to Ukraine. Can we afford it? Is it a gift or a loan? Are we just prolonging the agony, and how long can we continue? You can dislike Boris for a number of reasons, but his stance towards Ukraine is spot on. Anyone with basic logic understand that our way of life, that includes but it's not limited to freedom of speech, democracy, etc. is now being under defended in Ukraine. If that fails in Ukraine, tomorrow will be Moldavia, Poland, Baltic countries. Or, I can borrow you my book from primary school language lessons "говорите по русски" so we can all start teaching children lovely song about girl named Antoshka digging potatoes . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookesey 635 #2650 Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) What I don’t get is that reportedly two thirds of home based Russians think it to be a fair and just war. Don’t these guys have access to western media, are they really that happy with Putin’s control? Well I don’t believe a word of it, this is old style Soviet style domination at its worst IMHO. Edited July 1, 2022 by crookesey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared 317 #2651 Posted July 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, crookesey said: What I don’t get is that reportedly two thirds of home based Russians think it to be a fair and just war. Don’t these guys have access to western media, are they really that happy with Putin’s control? Well I don’t believe a word of it, this is old style Soviet style domination at its worst IMHO. There's a great number of Russians living in abject poverty, poorer than the Ukrainian people they invaded. It was seen in the media when they were looting stuff like old TV's, toilets and home boilers. Not exactly the usual spoils of war. People like that don't have internet access, they know what the state tells them and that's all they know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookesey 635 #2652 Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, geared said: There's a great number of Russians living in abject poverty, poorer than the Ukrainian people they invaded. It was seen in the media when they were looting stuff like old TV's, toilets and home boilers. Not exactly the usual spoils of war. People like that don't have internet access, they know what the state tells them and that's all they know. Come the revolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...