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Russia has just replied to the G7 by bombing a shopping centre killing ordinary men women and children ,what a brave Country they are following the new Hitler .  the free World should stop them now or the outcome will be end of freedom and Democracy as we know it .

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6 minutes ago, Leo Tomlinson said:

Russia has just replied to the G7 by bombing a shopping centre killing ordinary men women and children ,what a brave Country they are following the new Hitler .  the free World should stop them now or the outcome will be end of freedom and Democracy as we know it .

Somethings got to change and quickly 

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9 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

Somethings got to change and quickly 

It certainly has or the free World will become a laughing  stock as far as Russia , China among others who pretend to be our allies are concerned .

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Russia is now in payment default, compounding the financial pressure on its national economy.

 

Russian weapon stores and logistic systems are getting annihilated en masse by HIMARs, leaving the Russian army with nowt to shoot, nor fuel their armour with, and Russia hasn’t got the components to manufacture replacement (modern) ammunition.

 

Russian domestic oil/gas infrastructure is getting bombed daily by cheap fly-and-forget drones, and cannot get the spares to fix.

 

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Rest assured that nobody’s laughing at the ‘Free World’: it has blunted Russian imperialist adventurism and showed its military to be anything but capable, it is successfully defending and propping up Ukraine, and it is fast killing the Russian national economy.
 

India and China have both seen how well and fast the West united just fine, and for now and the foreseeable future, they still need the West economically as much as they ever did, because neither is out of the Covid economic mess by a very long shot. They know which side their toast is buttered.

 

Besides, the longer the war in Ukraine continues, the less Putin can afford to get in hock to Mumbai or Beijing: his strategic capacity is dwindling by the day, and resources treasure trove Siberia is a long way east from Moscow…but not that far from China and India.

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1 hour ago, L00b said:

Russia is now in payment default, compounding the financial pressure on its national economy.

 

Russian weapon stores and logistic systems are getting annihilated en masse by HIMARs, leaving the Russian army with nowt to shoot, nor fuel their armour with, and Russia hasn’t got the components to manufacture replacement (modern) ammunition.

 

Russian domestic oil/gas infrastructure is getting bombed daily by cheap fly-and-forget drones, and cannot get the spares to fix.

 

<…>

 

Rest assured that nobody’s laughing at the ‘Free World’: it has blunted Russian imperialist adventurism and showed its military to be anything but capable, it is successfully defending and propping up Ukraine, and it is fast killing the Russian national economy.
 

India and China have both seen how well and fast the West united just fine, and for now and the foreseeable future, they still need the West economically as much as they ever did, because neither is out of the Covid economic mess by a very long shot. They know which side their toast is buttered.

 

Besides, the longer the war in Ukraine continues, the less Putin can afford to get in hock to Mumbai or Beijing: his strategic capacity is dwindling by the day, and resources treasure trove Siberia is a long way east from Moscow…but not that far from China and India.

Words of comfort from afar, to the poor Ukranians that are sacrificed by  the West and left alone to fight the West's Great Satan.

 

And trading with that  same Great Satan,  Putin, which is financing his war on Ukraine.

 

That's the armchair warmonger's version of unity!

 

I do agree the Totalitarians around the world are watching it all unfold with great interest!

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2 hours ago, L00b said:

Russia is now in payment default, compounding the financial pressure on its national economy.

 

Russian weapon stores and logistic systems are getting annihilated en masse by HIMARs, leaving the Russian army with nowt to shoot, nor fuel their armour with, and Russia hasn’t got the components to manufacture replacement (modern) ammunition.

 

Russian domestic oil/gas infrastructure is getting bombed daily by cheap fly-and-forget drones, and cannot get the spares to fix.

 

<…>

 

Rest assured that nobody’s laughing at the ‘Free World’: it has blunted Russian imperialist adventurism and showed its military to be anything but capable, it is successfully defending and propping up Ukraine, and it is fast killing the Russian national economy.
 

India and China have both seen how well and fast the West united just fine, and for now and the foreseeable future, they still need the West economically as much as they ever did, because neither is out of the Covid economic mess by a very long shot. They know which side their toast is buttered.

 

Besides, the longer the war in Ukraine continues, the less Putin can afford to get in hock to Mumbai or Beijing: his strategic capacity is dwindling by the day, and resources treasure trove Siberia is a long way east from Moscow…but not that far from China and India.

Not disagreeing with you but with respect to your first three paragraphs ? How do you know this to be true ?

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On 23/06/2022 at 11:54, geared said:

Seen reports online that Russia is going to cut Europe off come winter, spike gas prices and hit economies.

 

Not very good if it's the Russian's ending the trade first and not the EU.

I'm reminded of "Have I Got News for You's" opening credits where a Russkie is turning off the gas to Europe. This dates back prior to 2014!

 

 

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Just now, Ridgewalk said:

Not disagreeing with you but with respect to your first three paragraphs ? How do you know this to be true ?

 

There's 2 wars going on at the moment.

 

In one, there's a political  and MSM "narrative" the brave Ukranians are winning, and the World is supporting their efforts.

 

In the other, the Ukraine is being systematically destroyed, and it's hapless fighters killed, and being de-populated at the rate of a million refugees a month. At least 5 million so far.

 

The real war is being fought in Ukraine, not Russia!

 

There's no accounting for what some folks choose to believe.

 

Human nature!

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25 minutes ago, Ridgewalk said:

Not disagreeing with you but with respect to your first three paragraphs ? How do you know this to be true ?

I follow the news 😑
 

1st point: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-26/russia-defaults-on-foreign-debt-for-first-time-since-1918

 

2nd point: https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/06/27/ukraine-starts-hitting-ammunition-depots-deep-in-russias-rear/?__cf_chl_tk=j2g_.A6KTAYIMFOb8WEigVEyeqw5VhLqbPLx4T1K56k-1656416456-0-gaNycGzNB70

 

3rd point: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2022/06/22/ukrainian-kamikaze-drone-strike-sets-russian-oil-facility-ablaze/

 

(all 3 quickly found to copy-paste in here for illustrating the point, note. there are hundreds of alternative, independent confirmations for each)

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Just now, L00b said:

Couldn't get past thefirst one! A technicality.

 

"Eurobonds issued by Russia after 2018 allow under certain conditions for repayments to be made in rubles.

 

However, eurobonds issued before 2018 either do not contain this alternative currency clause or allow for repayments to be made only in other hard currencies."

 

Moody's

Moody's defines Russia's Eurobond payments in ruble instead of dollar "as default"

 

"Global rating agency Moody's announced that Russia has defaulted on to foreign debts worth $100 million."

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/russia-defaults-on-foreign-debts-moodys/2624350

 

$100 million is small change to putin. Just a bill for vodka on his yatcht.

 

Meanwhilee, the EU has spent €35bn on Russian energy since the war began and just €1bn on aid to Ukraine - Borrell. The EU has paid €35 billion for Russian energy since the start of the war compared to the €1 billion it has sent to Ukraine in the form of foreign aid, Josep Borrell, the EU's top diplomat, has said.Jun 4, 2022

 

It is to laugh!

 

 

 

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Sure as day follows night, it’s a safe bet trastrick is having a pop at my post, like dromedary would in the Brexit consequences thread.

 

Let me guess: someone doesn’t understand what “sovereign default” is and means, still the same ‘Putin good’, still the same ‘EU bad’, without forgetting the obligatory ‘ye’re all armchair generals anyways’?

 

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Just now, L00b said:

Sure as day follows night, it’s a safe bet trastrick is having a pop at my post, like dromedary would in the Brexit consequences thread.

 

Let me guess: someone doesn’t understand what “sovereign default” is and means, still the same ‘Putin good’, still the same ‘EU bad’, without forgetting the obligatory ‘ye’re all armchair generals anyways’?

 

😁

Let me set you straight, pal. Putin is NOT good!

 

Putin is a Tryant. A totalitarian Tyrant, who took advantage of Obama/Biden weakness to invade the Ukraine, twice!

 

Tyrant's can smell fear and indecision. There's lots more in the World where he came from.

 

They laugh at the pathetic and ill founded logic that has one country like Ukraine carrying the hopes and dreams of Western armchair warriors, and doing the dirty work, while they are AT THE SAME TIME, sending $31,000,000,000.00 to Putin for his Fossil Fuel Oil and Gas, and staying home on their sofas, watching their proxy war on telly.

 

That's Thirty One Billion dollars they have paid him. and are still paying him.

 

I've lived through one World War and quite a few others, and this kind of so-called Western Foreign Policy can only come from someone of whom, like the respected former Defense Secretary for Bush and Obama, Robert Gates, said publicly:

 

"He (Joe Biden) has been wrong on nearly every major Foriegn Policy and National Security Issue over the past four decades!"

 

And he's not alone:

 

ABC News

 

"Former George W. Bush Deputy C hief of Staff Karl Rove in 2010: "Since his election to the U.S. Senate in the early 70s, Joe Biden has been on the wrong end of virtually every foreign policy dispute since then."

 

"Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer in 2012: The vice president over the last 30 years "holds the American record for [being] wrong on the most issues in foreign affairs ever. … He is the Herbert Hoover of American foreign policy."

 

"Marc Thiessen, speechwriter to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and President Bush, in 2012: "The fact is Biden has a near-perfect record of being wrong about almost every major foreign policy question that the United States has faced in the past three decades."

 

"Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in 2012: "Biden has - has been consistently wrong on every national security issue that I've been involved in in the last 20 years or so."

 

https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/01/bob-gates-memoir-slams-joe-biden-for-being-wrong-on-foreign-policy

 

Save me the phony outrage!

 

 

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