trastrick   866 #37 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Magilla said: Legitimizing authoritarian regimes and their leaders.... "Diplomacy"  Talk softly? LOL, who're you trying to kid?  Biden has precisely the same stick  Donald Trump triggers a Turkish invasion and trashes the national interest: https://www.economist.com/briefing/2019/10/17/donald-trump-triggers-a-turkish-invasion-and-trashes-the-national-interest   Cancelling Keystone XL was an election promise made by Biden. He won the election  Trump vetoed the broader legislation of which the Nordstream sanctions formed part: https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/2171953-trump-veto-delays-nord-stream-2-sanctions  Doesn't look like they ever started  They would have hurt US companies at least as much: https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/29/biden-nord-stream-2-insurance-sanctions-protecting-us-firms/  Unrelated, since the pipeline in question was nowhere near complete  The issues here are global.  No, they're really not! Trump, on the other hand...   Oh yes they are!  You like your conspiracy theories?  Here's one that makes more common sense than Trump's "Russian Collusion Conspiracy Theory"  "What Does Vladimir Putin Have on Joe Biden?"  https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/what-does-vladimir-putin-have-on-joe-biden  (Cue Annie!) Edited January 26, 2022 by trastrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #38 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, trastrick said: Oh yes they are!  You like your conspiracy theories?  Here's one that makes more common sense than Trump's "Russian Collusion Conspiracy Theory" That when investigated actually found collusion in Trumps inner circle, people went to prison, and Trump wasn't exonerated of involvement.  Turns out, it wasn't a theory.  Is it a witch-hunt if you find actual witches?  Quote "What Does Vladimir Putin Have on Joe Biden?"  https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/what-does-vladimir-putin-have-on-joe-biden Not quite "folk", as in "people in general" though, is it?  Most people don't think Putin has anything on Biden, and certainly aren't talking about it all over the place as you imply. Edited January 26, 2022 by Magilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick   866 #39 Posted January 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, Magilla said: That when investigated actually found collusion in Trumps inner circle, people went to prison, and Trump wasn't exonerated of involvement.  Turns out, it wasn't a theory.  Is it a witch-hunt if you find actual witches?  Not quite "folk", as in "people in general" though, is it?  Most people don't think Putin has anything on Biden, and certainly aren't talking about it all over the place as you imply. Looks like your "Russian Collusion" conspiracy hoax is not selling, mate. Do you have another conspiracy theory to explain why?  The latest Poll  from HarrisCAPS-Harvard Poll  Favorable Unfavorable  Trump 47           44  The only politician with a plus rating. (+3)  Biden 39           53  Harris 36            51  Pelosi 32            54  Schumer 27             45  https://harvardharrispoll.com/ As reported in RealClear Politics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #40 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, trastrick said: Looks like your "Russian Collusion" conspiracy hoax is not selling, mate. Do you have another conspiracy theory to explain why? It wasn't a hoax though, was it ... the evidence, conclusions and convictions are there for all (who want) to see.  What’s New in the Unredacted Mueller Report? https://www.lawfareblog.com/whats-new-unredacted-mueller-report "Trump had direct knowledge of Roger Stone’s outreach to WikiLeaks, according to multiple witnesses interviewed by Mueller. He encouraged that outreach and asked his campaign chairman to pursue it further, those witnesses said. And Mueller’s office appears to have strongly suspected, without putting it in so many words, that Trump lied to the special counsel in his written answers to Mueller’s questions about the Stone affair."  Trump got a pass because Republicans gave him one, he wasn't exonerated (or proven innocent)  Bidens polling numbers are entirely unrelated, and he still commands a better approval rating than Trump at the same time in his term (admittedly it's close).  Still nowhere near Trumps lows though, so why should we even care? They never influenced your view, why should they anyone else's?  Edited January 26, 2022 by Magilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick   866 #41 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Magilla said: It wasn't a hoax though, was it ... the evidence, conclusions and convictions are there for all (who want) to see.  What’s New in the Unredacted Mueller Report? https://www.lawfareblog.com/whats-new-unredacted-mueller-report "Trump had direct knowledge of Roger Stone’s outreach to WikiLeaks, according to multiple witnesses interviewed by Mueller. He encouraged that outreach and asked his campaign chairman to pursue it further, those witnesses said. And Mueller’s office appears to have strongly suspected, without putting it in so many words, that Trump lied to the special counsel in his written answers to Mueller’s questions about the Stone affair."  Trump got a pass because Republicans gave him one, he wasn't exonerated (or proven innocent)  Bidens polling numbers are entirely unrelated, and he still commands a better approval rating than Trump at the same time in his term (admittedly it's close).  Still nowhere near Trumps lows though, so why should we even care? They never influenced your view, why should they anyone else's?  Prosecutors don't "exonerate" or "prove people innocent".  They either recommend prosecution, or they don't.  When they get even a parking ticket on Trump, let us know!  It's been 6 years now!  Still waiting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #42 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, trastrick said: Prosecutors don't "exonerate" or "prove people innocent". Obviously, for that you have to be judged.  Trump escaped that, largely by Republicans simply refusing to even look at the evidence, not that it didn't exist!  As before, Trump wasn't exonerated, or proven innocent.  Quote They either recommend prosecution, or they don't. Nope!  Mueller stated that "all three elements of the crime of obstruction of justice have been met" but that the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel's opinion, that federal prosecutors can't charge a sitting president with a crime, barred him from making any recommendation.  Mueller's statements in the matter make it clear that without that opinion, Trump would have been charged.  Quote When they get even a parking ticket on Trump, let us know! Cool... also, get back to us when Biden has a +39.3 unfavorable spread at RCP  Quote It's been 6 years now!  Still waiting! Plenty going on this year: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-challenges-1189110/  ... so who knows, maybe you won't have to wait much longer  Edited January 26, 2022 by Magilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick   866 #43 Posted January 27, 2022 14 hours ago, Magilla said: Obviously, for that you have to be judged.  Trump escaped that, largely by Republicans simply refusing to even look at the evidence, not that it didn't exist!  As before, Trump wasn't exonerated, or proven innocent.  Nope!  Mueller stated that "all three elements of the crime of obstruction of justice have been met" but that the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel's opinion, that federal prosecutors can't charge a sitting president with a crime, barred him from making any recommendation.  Mueller's statements in the matter make it clear that without that opinion, Trump would have been charged.  Cool... also, get back to us when Biden has a +39.3 unfavorable spread at RCP  Plenty going on this year: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-challenges-1189110/  ... so who knows, maybe you won't have to wait much longer Not so fast Moriarty!  Update July 24, 2019 NBC News  "Mueller clarifies comments on whether he could indict Trump" "The special counsel's report said he never came to a determination about whether the president should be charged because of DOJ rules. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/did-mueller-mean-trump-could-be-indicted-when-he-leaves-n1033901  If Mueller had foud evidence of a crime, he would have said so, and there would be a mad rush to indict Trump, now he is "not a sitting President"  Lol  and yes, I agree, there's "plenty going on this year" "6 New Revelations From The John Durham Spygate Probe" https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/26/6-new-revelations-from-the-john-durham-spygate-probe/  Patience is a virtue!  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #44 Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, trastrick said: Not so fast Moriarty!  Update July 24, 2019 NBC News  "Mueller clarifies comments on whether he could indict Trump" "The special counsel's report said he never came to a determination about whether the president should be charged because of DOJ rules. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/did-mueller-mean-trump-could-be-indicted-when-he-leaves-n1033901  If Mueller had foud evidence of a crime, he would have said so, and there would be a mad rush to indict Trump, now he is "not a sitting President" Cool... let anyone who's interested read your link, and make their own mind up!  Quote Lol  and yes, I agree, there's "plenty going on this year" "6 New Revelations From The John Durham Spygate Probe" https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/26/6-new-revelations-from-the-john-durham-spygate-probe/ Now that really is a LOL!  A lot of wishful thinking that, as before, isn't actually related to any reason the investigation was started in the first place!  ...but then, it also runs opinion pieces giving medical advice and recommendations, by people who do not have a medical license and aren't doctors, or even health professionals!  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federalist_(website) "conspiracy-mongering partisan rag that has now become a menace to public health"  Turns out they have a track record for getting it wrong, oh dear  Quote Patience is a virtue! That you clearly don't have Edited January 27, 2022 by Magilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick   866 #45 Posted January 27, 2022 54 minutes ago, Magilla said: Cool... let anyone who's interested read your link, and make their own mind up!  Now that really is a LOL!  A lot of wishful thinking that, as before, isn't actually related to any reason the investigation was started in the first place!  Given the voracity of their previous articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federalist_(website) "conspiracy-mongering partisan rag that has now become a menace to public health"  What makes you think they have a point this time?   That you clearly don't have I would recommend that open minded folks read your entire WIKI link!  The critics quoted, are the same ones that are now revising, correcting, and even deleting their erroneous reporting on the "Russian Collusion Conspiracy" hoax.  Also I'd recommend this USA Today article which lays out some facts about the "news media".  USA Today  "Mueller report: Collusion by the news media, not Donald Trump, but don't expect apologies" "We may someday need a press we can trust. But I hope not, because we certainly don’t have one. The drummed up narrative of collusion has now imploded". https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/03/24/mueller-report-findings-collusion-news-media-donald-trump-column/3263167002/  Just some friendly advice.  I would be patient and wait until the John Durham Criminal Investigation is complete, before regurgitating the old accusations, that current events have now rendered moot.  Not that you'll change your mind, but you won't look so misinformed.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #46 Posted January 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, trastrick said: I would recommend that open minded folks read your entire WIKI link!  The critics quoted, are the same ones that are now revising, correcting, and even deleting their erroneous reporting on the "Russian Collusion Conspiracy" hoax. Cool story bro  They'll also see your somewhat desperate, and pathetic attempts at "making stuff up" too  12 minutes ago, trastrick said: I would be patient and wait until the John Durham Criminal Investigation is complete, before regurgitating the old accusations, that current events have now rendered moot. I'm more than happy to but you can't help bringing it up, implying connections that don't exist, at every possible turn!   12 minutes ago, trastrick said: Not that you'll change your mind, but you won't look so misinformed. Given the veracity of your claims on here, I'll take my chances taa  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick   866 #47 Posted January 27, 2022 30 minutes ago, Magilla said: Cool story bro  They'll also see your somewhat desperate, and pathetic attempts at "making stuff up" too  I'm more than happy to but you can't help bringing it up, implying connections that don't exist, at every possible turn!   Given the veracity of your claims on here, I'll take my chances taa  We're all good then.  We'll see who was making "desperate, and pathetic attempts at "making stuff up".  When The John Durham Criminal Investigation is completed.  You'll have my sincere apologies if he finds the Clinton Campaign "Russian Collusion Conspiracy" hoax was actually true! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick   866 #48 Posted January 27, 2022 8 hours ago, ElliotM said: Yeah, I know, I was talking more about invading now the Ucraine, as far as I know they have a part of their army right at the border now and they are ready to invade, in this case guys, we are talking about war. I am not 100% sure about this info so sorry if I am wrong, I just really hope it won't happen I don't think you'll have a full military invasion in the Ukraine, or Taiwan for that matter. Biden is on record he will not militarily oppose what he calls "minor incursions".  So the people and governments there can be intimidate onto signing on the mother countries. Civil warfare may take place for the few holdouts, but most will just accept the inevitable. Their leaders will like fly off to their foreign bank accounts. Like Afghanistan they'll just give up, because they have no allied support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
