Jack Grey   1,602 #13 Posted January 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, Mister M said:  How do you feel about the UK Government writing off £4.3 billion taken by fraudsters from furlough and other business support in lockdown? Absolutely disgraceful  I know someone who took a 50k bounce back loan and then bought a new Range Rover knowing they would never have to pay it back.  We had self employed truckers from the EU taking loans and then leaving the country  We had people setting up hundreds of business and claiming furlough  I read a story of a small Indian restaurant with 10 tables that claimed furlough for 100 employees  And its all been written off.....and as usual its the law abiding taxpayer who will have to pay it back  CRIME DOES PAY IN THE UK 😠 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #14 Posted January 19, 2022 33 minutes ago, Jack Grey said: Absolutely disgraceful  I know someone who took a 50k bounce back loan and then bought a new Range Rover knowing they would never have to pay it back.  We had self employed truckers from the EU taking loans and then leaving the country  We had people setting up hundreds of business and claiming furlough  I read a story of a small Indian restaurant with 10 tables that claimed furlough for 100 employees  And its all been written off.....and as usual its the law abiding taxpayer who will have to pay it back  CRIME DOES PAY IN THE UK 😠 People with long covid and who have been certified by their medic as unable to work due to their symptoms are entitled to be signed off. I would suggest that government money claimed by a handful of people who may try to fake symptoms of long covid to get out of work will be miniscule in comparison to the sums of money defrauded through £4.3 billion business support loans defrauded from the taxpayer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,602 #15 Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Mister M said: People with long covid and who have been certified by their medic as unable to work due to their symptoms are entitled to be signed off. I would suggest that government money claimed by a handful of people who may try to fake symptoms of long covid to get out of work will be miniscule in comparison to the sums of money defrauded through £4.3 billion business support loans defrauded from the taxpayer. I dont agree  Covid cannot be used as an excuse for people to abuse the system  Im not saying its everyone but there are a lot of people have used Covid to get a lot of time off work on full pay  We cannot have bus drivers, train drivers, tube drivers, teachers, civil servants, NHS workers using long Covid as an excuse to take time off work on full pay which cripples services  Enough is enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B   1,414 #16 Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Mister M said: People with long covid and who have been certified by their medic as unable to work due to their symptoms are entitled to be signed off. I would suggest that government money claimed by a handful of people who may try to fake symptoms of long covid to get out of work will be miniscule in comparison to the sums of money defrauded through £4.3 billion business support loans defrauded from the taxpayer. Well said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PRESLEY   1,229 #17 Posted January 19, 2022 You can aquire these sympton by just getting the normal flu virus, I did three years ago. Three years on and still havn't got my taste or smell back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #18 Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Jack Grey said: I dont agree  Covid cannot be used as an excuse for people to abuse the system  Im not saying its everyone but there are a lot of people have used Covid to get a lot of time off work on full pay  We cannot have bus drivers, train drivers, tube drivers, teachers, civil servants, NHS workers using long Covid as an excuse to take time off work on full pay which cripples services  Enough is enough I didn't say people should abuse the system. People haven't "used Covid to get a lot of time off work on full pay", many have HAD to self isolate because they've got Coronavirus, they've been pinged, and they've obeyed the law. During the long periods of lockdown, people were ringing up the radio stations I listened to were really struggling with the boredom of lockdown, or had serious problems with their mental health. Nobody enjoyed lockdown. I think there is an effort to portray some people as lazy scroungers, but when it comes to those who have defrauded the tax system out of billions in furlough - oh well, we'll write that £4.3 billion off, it'd only be spent on benefits to those who'd pi$$ it up the wall anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cressida   1,570 #19 Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) In reply to Presley -  You'll have to spice up your meals, are your joints affected? Edited January 19, 2022 by cressida Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PRESLEY   1,229 #20 Posted January 19, 2022 38 minutes ago, cressida said: In reply to Presley -  You'll have to spice up your meals, are your joints affected? No, some stuff like meat and certain crisp taste like metal or something, but havn't  got no shortness of breath ect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,602 #21 Posted January 19, 2022 49 minutes ago, Mister M said: I didn't say people should abuse the system. People haven't "used Covid to get a lot of time off work on full pay", many have HAD to self isolate because they've got Coronavirus, they've been pinged, and they've obeyed the law. During the long periods of lockdown, people were ringing up the radio stations I listened to were really struggling with the boredom of lockdown, or had serious problems with their mental health. Nobody enjoyed lockdown. I think there is an effort to portray some people as lazy scroungers, but when it comes to those who have defrauded the tax system out of billions in furlough - oh well, we'll write that £4.3 billion off, it'd only be spent on benefits to those who'd pi$$ it up the wall anyway Everyone has been hungover and called in to work sick  Whats stopping people using Covid as an excuse to get out of work?  Especially those who are members of Unions  Sick pay is abused in the NHS and costs the taxpayer Billions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #22 Posted January 19, 2022 45 minutes ago, Jack Grey said: Everyone has been hungover and called in to work sick  Whats stopping people using Covid as an excuse to get out of work?  Especially those who are members of Unions  Sick pay is abused in the NHS and costs the taxpayer Billions If you've done it, why are you getting on your high horse then?  Speaking of sick pay, and self certification: Workers told they can take 28 days off sick without doctor’s note | The Independent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,602 #23 Posted January 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mister M said: If you've done it, why are you getting on your high horse then?  Speaking of sick pay, and self certification: Workers told they can take 28 days off sick without doctor’s note | The Independent Its estimated that 90% of the country have had Covid  Can they all claim to have long Covid and get a sick note for months on end? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon   #24 Posted January 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jack Grey said: Its estimated that 90% of the country have had Covid  Can they all claim to have long Covid and get a sick note for months on end? Who has estimated that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...