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11 hours ago, Mossway said:

Agree.

I've just joined the Conservative Party so I can vote against Boris (I have to wait 3 months tho')but if the alternative is Truss I'd have to abstain !

Very sad

 

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14 hours ago, Mister M said:

You've forgotten that since 12th December 2019, Tories lost their ultra safe seats of Chesham and Amersham, as well as North Shropshire. Furthermore had it not been for the votes of the opposition parties, Johnson would not have got his plan B covid restrictions through parliament, because of the malcontented extremists in his own party.

 

And won Hartlepool.

 

The Tories who voted against the Plan B covid restrictions had valid arguments for doing so.  I'm more than happy for Tory MPs to question covid policy.

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9 minutes ago, West 77 said:

And won Hartlepool.

 

The Tories who voted against the Plan B covid restrictions had valid arguments for doing so.  I'm more than happy for Tory MPs to question covid policy.

Locking 70 million people in their homes as a caution to 'Save the NHS' destroying lives and businesses is not a solution.

 

They used the science and data to implement draconian restrictions on our lives and then started to ignore the science and data to implement them again. Even after they promised that vaccines were the way out of the pandemic.

 

It'll give Boris some breathing space and a bit of a reprieve but i still think he'll try to bring in some form of restrictions this month.

 

The added bonus is that hes made Sturgeon and Drakeford look like a couple of evil dictators. 

 

Northern England will be full of Scots on NYE 👍

Edited by Jack Grey

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11 hours ago, altus said:

You could get them all exited by making them think they are starting to appeal to young people too. :hihi:

Yes!  Hitler Youth. :hihi:

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18 minutes ago, Jack Grey said:

Locking 70 million people in their homes as a caution to 'Save the NHS' destroying lives and businesses is not a solution.

 

They used the science and data to implement draconian restrictions on our lives and then started to ignore the science and data to implement them again. Even after they promised that vaccines were the way out of the pandemic.

 

It'll give Boris some breathing space and a bit of a reprieve but i still think he'll try to bring in some form of restrictions this month.

 

The added bonus is that hes made Sturgeon and Drakeford look like a couple of evil dictators. 

 

Northern England will be full of Scots on NYE 👍

Problem being is that it’s the only game in town and he has to be seen doing something. Labour claim that everything that he does is wrong, without coming up with a viable alternative on this subject, if in-fact there is one.

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27 minutes ago, crookesey said:

Problem being is that it’s the only game in town and he has to be seen doing something. Labour claim that everything that he does is wrong, without coming up with a viable alternative on this subject, if in-fact there is one.

Well Labour are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

They dont want to agree with Boris but they have to be seen to be supporting the NHS no matter what. The NHS is now a left wing religion.

 

So they do the opposite by demanding even harsher lockdowns.

 

It was the Libdems who voted against any an extension of the Coronavirus Act which was a bit of a curve ball that went under the radar.

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57 minutes ago, Jack Grey said:

Locking 70 million people in their homes as a caution to 'Save the NHS' destroying lives and businesses is not a solution.

 

They used the science and data to implement draconian restrictions on our lives and then started to ignore the science and data to implement them again. Even after they promised that vaccines were the way out of the pandemic.

 

It'll give Boris some breathing space and a bit of a reprieve but i still think he'll try to bring in some form of restrictions this month.

 

The added bonus is that hes made Sturgeon and Drakeford look like a couple of evil dictators. 

 

Northern England will be full of Scots on NYE 👍

70 million people have never been locked in their homes at anytime during the pandemic in the UK.  More restrictions will be needed if too many NHS workers catch covid.  Vaccines are the way out of the pandemic but at the moment there is a problem with the high numbers of infections that mean many NHS and other key workers have to remain at home to  self isolate.  

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24 minutes ago, West 77 said:

70 million people have never been locked in their homes at anytime during the pandemic in the UK.  More restrictions will be needed if too many NHS workers catch covid.  Vaccines are the way out of the pandemic but at the moment there is a problem with the high numbers of infections that mean many NHS and other key workers have to remain at home to  self isolate.  

During the first lockdown there were police roadblocks and drones chasing people going for walks....but that was nearly 2 years ago

 

Personally closing the hospitality sector because there is a shortage of NHS workers should never happen. 

 

Its morally wrong for some peoples businesses and careers to be less important than others. 

 

I think we need ask whos job it was to get the NHS ready for the winter flu season and why they have failed again.

 

They cant blame lack of money because the NHS has been given a blank cheque for the last 2 years.

 

Too many unaccountable people at the NHS on six figure salaries who seem to be getting away with monumental failures 

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52 minutes ago, Jack Grey said:

During the first lockdown there were police roadblocks and drones chasing people going for walks....but that was nearly 2 years ago

 

Personally closing the hospitality sector because there is a shortage of NHS workers should never happen. 

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Its morally wrong for some peoples businesses and careers to be less important than others. 

 

I think we need ask whos job it was to get the NHS ready for the winter flu season and why they have failed again.

They cant blame lack of money because the NHS has been given a blank cheque for the last 2 years.

 

Too many unaccountable people at the NHS on six figure salaries who seem to be getting away with monumental failures 

There were a few reports of the police preventing and discouraging people travelling to tourist areas. Most people were allowed to leave their homes for numerous reasons. None of the lockdowns have been enforced heavy handed.

 

The NHS can't be blamed for new variants of covid being more easily spread which seems to be the problem that many places of work including hospitals are facing at the moment.

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50 minutes ago, West 77 said:

There were a few reports of the police preventing and discouraging people travelling to tourist areas. Most people were allowed to leave their homes for numerous reasons. None of the lockdowns have been enforced heavy handed.

 

The NHS can't be blamed for new variants of covid being more easily spread which seems to be the problem that many places of work including hospitals are facing at the moment.

The only way we can move forward is to treat Covid like we do cold & flu

 

If you feel your well enough to work then go to work and if your not then stay home

 

If the old and sick have been vaccinated then what more can we do?

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Some folk just love being scared, I noticed a woman crossing a field in the Peak Park totally devoid of anyone else other than me who was circa 50 feet away, but she was fully masked, folk driving with no passengers wearing masks, some must go to bed in masks. :huh:

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6 hours ago, Mister M said:

Shows how bad things are when even the disgraced  former Health Secretary Matt Handcock is being spoken about as as a potential replacement for Johnson, (only by a 'PR guru') in yesterdays Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/27/matt-hancock-scandal-politicians-prime-minister

 

 

Aha- that impeccably impartial and evenhanded newspaper The Guardian. Sure to believe its accurate reportage.

And the anonymous briefer even more so.

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