Jack Grey   1,602 #181 Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, crookesey said: Problem being is that it’s the only game in town and he has to be seen doing something. Labour claim that everything that he does is wrong, without coming up with a viable alternative on this subject, if in-fact there is one. Well Labour are stuck between a rock and a hard place.  They dont want to agree with Boris but they have to be seen to be supporting the NHS no matter what. The NHS is now a left wing religion.  So they do the opposite by demanding even harsher lockdowns.  It was the Libdems who voted against any an extension of the Coronavirus Act which was a bit of a curve ball that went under the radar. Edited December 28, 2021 by Jack Grey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,602 #182 Posted December 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, West 77 said: 70 million people have never been locked in their homes at anytime during the pandemic in the UK. More restrictions will be needed if too many NHS workers catch covid. Vaccines are the way out of the pandemic but at the moment there is a problem with the high numbers of infections that mean many NHS and other key workers have to remain at home to self isolate.  During the first lockdown there were police roadblocks and drones chasing people going for walks....but that was nearly 2 years ago  Personally closing the hospitality sector because there is a shortage of NHS workers should never happen.  Its morally wrong for some peoples businesses and careers to be less important than others.  I think we need ask whos job it was to get the NHS ready for the winter flu season and why they have failed again.  They cant blame lack of money because the NHS has been given a blank cheque for the last 2 years.  Too many unaccountable people at the NHS on six figure salaries who seem to be getting away with monumental failures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,602 #183 Posted December 28, 2021 50 minutes ago, West 77 said: There were a few reports of the police preventing and discouraging people travelling to tourist areas. Most people were allowed to leave their homes for numerous reasons. None of the lockdowns have been enforced heavy handed.  The NHS can't be blamed for new variants of covid being more easily spread which seems to be the problem that many places of work including hospitals are facing at the moment. The only way we can move forward is to treat Covid like we do cold & flu  If you feel your well enough to work then go to work and if your not then stay home  If the old and sick have been vaccinated then what more can we do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookesey   635 #184 Posted December 28, 2021 Some folk just love being scared, I noticed a woman crossing a field in the Peak Park totally devoid of anyone else other than me who was circa 50 feet away, but she was fully masked, folk driving with no passengers wearing masks, some must go to bed in masks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #185 Posted December 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Mister M said: Shows how bad things are when even the disgraced former Health Secretary Matt Handcock is being spoken about as as a potential replacement for Johnson, (only by a 'PR guru') in yesterdays Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/27/matt-hancock-scandal-politicians-prime-minister   Aha- that impeccably impartial and evenhanded newspaper The Guardian. Sure to believe its accurate reportage. And the anonymous briefer even more so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #186 Posted December 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, Jeffrey Shaw said: Aha- that impeccably impartial and evenhanded newspaper The Guardian. Sure to believe its accurate reportage. And the anonymous briefer even more so. You are letting your anti Guardian bias interfere with powers of observation. You've failed to notice that it is an opinion piece. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookesey   635 #187 Posted December 28, 2021 The rumour is of a ‘come back’ waiting to happen, but what does this person deserve to come back from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #188 Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jack Grey said: Well Labour are stuck between a rock and a hard place.  They dont want to agree with Boris but they have to be seen to be supporting the NHS no matter what. The NHS is now a left wing religion.  So they do the opposite by demanding even harsher lockdowns.  It was the Libdems who voted against any an extension of the Coronavirus Act which was a bit of a curve ball that went under the radar. It's not Labour that are stuck between a rock and a hard place, rather it's Boris Johnson. Since the Coronavirus crisis began 2 years ago Johnson is trapped between scientific advice, opinion polls that the public favour a 'safety first' strategy, and his so called 'libertarian wing' (the selfish, swivel eyed fruit loops) of his backbenchers, and those in the Telegraph/ Sun, and sometimes Mail. He rode to power on an 80 seat majority, with this great coalition of disparate interest groups. Now he's consistently falling between horses, pleasing no one. His fault, his problem, no-one elses 5 hours ago, Jack Grey said: During the first lockdown there were police roadblocks and drones chasing people going for walks....but that was nearly 2 years ago  Personally closing the hospitality sector because there is a shortage of NHS workers should never happen.  Its morally wrong for some peoples businesses and careers to be less important than others.  I think we need ask whos job it was to get the NHS ready for the winter flu season and why they have failed again.  They cant blame lack of money because the NHS has been given a blank cheque for the last 2 years.  Too many unaccountable people at the NHS on six figure salaries who seem to be getting away with monumental failures Tell that to Ministers who awarded lucrative contracts for PPE to buddies in the hospitality or other sectors, over those in the established PPE sector. Whose job is it to get ready for the winter flu season, and why have they failed again? And yes they can blame a lack of money, a waterfall ( of which a great deal of which was wasted e.g. 'test and trace') after a 10 year period of a squeeze doesn't solve the problem of depleted human and physical resources. None of which really answers the question of who should replace Johnson. Perhaps it should be Dildo Harding the ex head of test and trace, and wife of the anti sleaze Tory MP.  Edited December 28, 2021 by Mister M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #189 Posted December 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Jack Grey said: The only way we can move forward is to treat Covid like we do cold & flu  If you feel your well enough to work then go to work and if your not then stay home  If the old and sick have been vaccinated then what more can we do? I think rough estimates suggest that 300,000 housebound have yet to receive booster jab https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/05/300000-housebound-people-yet-get-covid-booster-vaccines/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,602 #190 Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Mister M said: I think rough estimates suggest that 300,000 housebound have yet to receive booster jab https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/05/300000-housebound-people-yet-get-covid-booster-vaccines/ Well thats easy to fix  Stop giving vaccines to 12 year olds who dont need them and focus on those 300,000 housebound  I bet we could get them all done in a day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #191 Posted December 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, Jack Grey said: Well thats easy to fix  Stop giving vaccines to 12 year olds who dont need them and focus on those 300,000 housebound  I bet we could get them all done in a day I've no idea why Maggie Throup hasn't done it already.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   824 #192 Posted December 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Jeffrey Shaw said: Aha- that impeccably impartial and evenhanded newspaper The Guardian. Sure to believe its accurate reportage. And the anonymous briefer even more so. I do like Steve Bell though.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...