Annie Bynnol 596 #9337 Posted July 3, 2022 6 hours ago, trastrick said: Unless you have scientific proof, that's a rather strong claim to make, considering the side effects are still being monotored and data compiled. We need that information going forward, if the science of safe vaccines is to progress! Are you serious? There is absolutely no science involved. It is the observation that Covid deniers/Anti-vaxx/Suppressionists and Conspiracy Theorists on this forum have many family, friends and acquaintances are seriously ill/dying from the vaccine- thus proving that the ineffectiveness of the deadly 'experimental' vaccine which will kill millions in the future. As this is not repeated in the general population, the only possible explanation is that people who know Covid deniers/Anti-vaxx/Suppressionists and Conspiracy Theorists are far, far more likely to die from the vaccine. In the same way that being distantly related to Miss Marple can seriously damage your health. The term 'scientific proof' is meaningless in science. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Chekhov 482 #9338 Posted July 3, 2022 11 hours ago, melthebell said: I know your lying I know at least one person who was in bed for two days after having the jab. Don't get me wrong I would still advise anyone over 50 odd (or in poor health) to have it, but under 50 and in good health ? Not so sure. And under 30 and in good health ? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Litotes 63 #9339 Posted July 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Chekhov said: And under 30 and in good health ? No. Why? What evidence do you have that suggests that not getting the jab outweighs the benefits of getting it? I am sure that the whole world would want to see this evidence (factual not opinionated). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell 862 #9340 Posted July 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Chekhov said: I know at least one person who was in bed for two days after having the jab. that means it did its job, almost everybody were a bit poorly either after the first, or after the second, never both. Thats different from the blood clot issue though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon #9341 Posted July 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Litotes said: Why? What evidence do you have that suggests that not getting the jab outweighs the benefits of getting it? I am sure that the whole world would want to see this evidence (factual not opinionated). He’s got graphs you know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick 866 #9342 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said: Are you serious? There is absolutely no science involved. It is the observation that Covid deniers/Anti-vaxx/Suppressionists and Conspiracy Theorists on this forum have many family, friends and acquaintances are seriously ill/dying from the vaccine- thus proving that the ineffectiveness of the deadly 'experimental' vaccine which will kill millions in the future. As this is not repeated in the general population, the only possible explanation is that people who know Covid deniers/Anti-vaxx/Suppressionists and Conspiracy Theorists are far, far more likely to die from the vaccine. In the same way that being distantly related to Miss Marple can seriously damage your health. The term 'scientific proof' is meaningless in science. In the purely literal sense, that is true. But science progresses through a preponderance of observed evidence, which one can accept, or not, as "proof". As in: Humans have evolved from lower animals A spoonful of arsenic willl kill you. People die. There is a "heaven" where all good Christians go. The Earth is flat. But to have a useful conversation, we neeed to limit the semantic and metaphysical rabbit holes such as one's relationship with a Miss Marple, or your oft repeated non scientic postulate of "Covid deniers/Anti-vaxx/Suppressionists and Conspiracy Theorists". So I'm happy to re-phrase the question: Do you have a a link to any scientific preponderance of evidence, that "Covid deniers/Anti-vaxx/Suppressionists and Conspiracy Theorists are far, far more likely to die from the vaccine" ? Edited July 4, 2022 by trastrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla 510 #9343 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, trastrick said: Do you have a a link to any scientific preponderance of evidence, that "Covid deniers/Anti-vaxx/Suppressionists and Conspiracy Theorists are far, far more likely to die from the vaccine" ? As usual, the issue is that you failed to understand (or comprehend) the claim... ...and somehow decided to just make up another one that bears no relation at all! Annies claim was: "The biggest 'at risk' group in the current Pandemic is therefore a relative of a Covid denier/Anti-vaxx/Suppressionist and/or Conspiracy Theorists." 98% to 99% of Americans Dying are Unvaccinated: https://medicalpartnership.usg.edu/covid-19-staggering-statistic-98-to-99-of-americans-dying-are-unvaccinated/ Annie's claim, not the one you made up, is self evidently true Edited July 4, 2022 by Magilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick 866 #9344 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) Just now, Magilla said: As usual, the issue is that you failed to understand (or comprehend) the claim... ...and somehow decided to just make up another one that bears no relation at all! Annies claim was: "The biggest 'at risk' group in the current Pandemic is therefore a relative of a 98% to 99% of Americans Dying are Unvaccinated: https://medicalpartnership.usg.edu/covid-19-staggering-statistic-98-to-99-of-americans-dying-are-unvaccinated/ Annie's claim, not the one you made up, is self evidently true Your link says nothing about. and I quote:" Covid denier/Anti-vaxx/Suppressionist and/or Conspiracy Theorists." Edited July 4, 2022 by trastrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla 510 #9345 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, trastrick said: Your link says nothing about. and I quote:" Covid denier/Anti-vaxx/Suppressionist and/or Conspiracy Theorists." Sure, because of all people they're the ones who're definitely going to be vaxxed... right? So much for that "basic common sense"! Edited July 4, 2022 by Magilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick 866 #9346 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) Just now, Magilla said: Sure, because of all people they're the ones who're definitely going to be vaxxed... right? Is somebody who fought hard and long against government mandates to vaccinate everybody under their jurisdiction. a "covid denier"? Even those who have been double jabbed, like me? And these folks? Nurses facing the sack protest over mandatory Covid-19 ... https://www.nursingtimes.net › news › coronavirus › nurs... Jan 25, 2022 — Nurses and midwives were among thousands who protested over the weekend against mandatory Covid-19 vaccination for NHS and care staff, ... NHS workers and anti-Covid vaccine protesters demonstrate ... https://www.itv.com › news › nhs-workers-and-anti-vax... Jan 22, 2022 — NHS workers who face losing their jobs and protesters opposed to mandatory vaccinations told ITV News Correspondent Dan Rivers why they are ... Health workers are among the COVID vaccine hesitant. Here's ... https://theconversation.com › health-workers-are-amon... Oct 3, 2021 — A small number of unvaccinated staff members are challenging vaccination mandates in the NSW Supreme Court. Beyond the hospital sector, there ... Some UK NHS health-care workers protest against vaccine ... https://www.youtube.com › watch PREVIEW 1:26 The U.K. government has made vaccines for health and home-care workers mandatory starting April 1, 2022. According to NHS England, ... YouTube · Global News · Jan 22, 2022 Health care workers protest COVID vaccine mandate - WWNY https://www.wwnytv.com › 2021/09/08 › health-care-wor... Sep 8, 2021 — WATERTOWN, New York (WWNY) - It's a decision hundreds of north country health care workers have to make soon: get a state-mandated vaccine ... Rallies against mandatory COVID-19 shots more a 'means of ... https://www.cbc.ca › news › canada › london › rnao-gr... Sep 6, 2021 — Recent London Health Sciences Centre protest among several organized by Canadian Frontline Nurses ... Doris Grinspun said the pandemic is ... Call to delay compulsory Covid vaccines for NHS staff - BBC https://www.bbc.com › news Jan 22, 2022 — NHS workers who oppose the government's mandatory vaccination policy have staged a protest in central London. As vaccine mandates spread, protests follow — some spurred ... https://www.nbcnews.com › tech › social-media › vacci... Aug 11, 2021 — Health care workers have never been immune from anti-vaccination views. Online groups like Nurses Against Mandatory Vaccines were early ... Nearly 4,000 healthcare workers protest against mandatory ... https://www.brusselstimes.com › nearly-4000-healthcar... Dec 7, 2021 — Nearly 4,000 healthcare workers took to the streets in Brussels to demonstrate against the mandatory Covid-19 vaccination for their sector. Health care workers hit the streets to protest vaccine mandate https://www.nbc11news.com › 2021/08/23 › health-care-... Aug 23, 2021 — GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (KKCO) -Some health care workers are protesting vaccine mandates at local hospitals and health care facilities. Edited July 4, 2022 by trastrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla 510 #9347 Posted July 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, trastrick said: Is somebody who fought hard and long against government mandates to vaccinate everybody under their jurisdiction. a "covid denier"? That would be the Anti-vaxx/Suppressionist and/or Conspiracy Theorist... ...but cheers for highlighting your inability to comprehend basic concepts, again! Also explains why you can't remember you own claims over in the Trump thread! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick 866 #9348 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) Just now, Magilla said: That would be the Anti-vaxx/Suppressionist and/or Conspiracy Theorist... ...but cheers for highlighting your inability to comprehend basic concepts, again! Also explains why you can't remember you own claims over in the Trump thread! And your abject failure to cite just one of my posts, that you "claim" is contradictory! Sooner or later, you will have to, if you expect me to continue your unhinged conversations. By the way, this is the COVID thread. If you want to discuss my posts about Trump, I'll be happy to see you there! Edited July 4, 2022 by trastrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...