COVID THREAD

[melthebell 863]

9 hours ago, top4718 said:

Its not a major effort but two of those are a complete waste of time, if you personally want to stay in because of a very minor illness then do so, definitely do so.

 

Even the Guardian are saying restrictions and lockdowns were pointless now, there'll be certain arrogant individuals having kittens that they're "bible" is betraying them 🤣

You're so transparent in your use of the MSM lol

[RJRB 688]

The debate as to how serious a threat Covid was in various countries and how effective the various measures were will go on for a lifetime.

Thats what history does.

There remains differences in interpretations ,even in hindsight ,plus the inability to state conclusively what the outcomes would have been had different actions been taken.

There can never be a definitive analysis that will satisfy all parties.

[Guest makapaka]

22 hours ago, melthebell said:

Effort in wearing a mask occasionally? Being asked to stay in for a while? And having a jab?

 

If that's a major effort for you I pit

Let’s not pretend it’s a none issue - the impacts of the lockdown are absolutely huge in a number of different areas, health, education, economy etc

[Chekhov 488]

21 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

I said that saying that you had an "exemption" when in fact you don't is a lie.

You are wrong, but I see no future in debating this.

[Chekhov 488]

42 minutes ago, makapaka said:

Let’s not pretend it’s a none issue - the impacts of the lockdown are absolutely huge in a number of different areas, health, education, economy etc

Absolutely, here are just  a few factors off the top of my head, there are literally hundreds more :

 

They reckon around 50,000 cancer patients have been diagnosed late. Bearing in mind the average age of a cancer death will be way under 83 (the average age of a Covid death) it is almost certain that more years of potential life will be lost form just that one issue.

 

We are entering a massive recession, and with empty state coffers because they have been paying out many many billions to people to sit at home on their ****s being unproductive. It is not just the suppression of society (and the economy) that has caused this,m but it is by far the most significant factor, esp the huge level of inflation that has been building up for about a year.

 

Many kids education and social development has been badly affected by all this, and with consequences which may take years to make themselves obvious.

 

21 hours ago, hackey lad said:

You really are fluent in gobbledygook. Well done 

I am merely quoting the gov.uk website.

Complain to them if you think they are merely quoting "gobbledygook"

Edited May 18, 2022 by Chekhov

[melthebell 863]

59 minutes ago, makapaka said:

Let’s not pretend it’s a none issue - the impacts of the lockdown are absolutely huge in a number of different areas, health, education, economy etc

And? That's what happens during a health emergency, it's not perfect

[hackey lad 3,972]

23 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

Absolutely, here are just  a few factors off the top of my head, there are literally hundreds more :

 

They reckon around 50,000 cancer patients have been diagnosed late. Bearing in mind the average age of a cancer death will be way under 83 (the average age of a Covid death) it is almost certain that more years of potential life will be lost form just that one issue.

 

We are entering a massive recession, and with empty state coffers because they have been paying out many many billions to people to sit at home on their ****s being unproductive. It is not just the suppression of society (and the economy) that has caused this,m but it is by far the most significant factor, esp the huge level of inflation that has been building up for about a year.

 

Many kids education and social development has been badly affected by all this, and with consequences which may take years to make themselves obvious.

 

I am merely quoting the gov.uk website.

Complain to them if you think they are merely quoting "gobbledygook"

I was talking about your post , not what you quoted 

[Guest makapaka]

46 minutes ago, melthebell said:

And? That's what happens during a health emergency, it's not perfect

So let’s not pretend it wasn’t a major effort for a lot of people.

[trastrick 866]

55 minutes ago, melthebell said:

And? That's what happens during a health emergency, it's not perfect

Not if it's handled correctly. 

 

No accountabilty means just more of the same. These are not just SF posters, they are the  "powers that be", with their "experts", getting rich off the taxpayer.

 

Emergencies are when real leadership shines.

Edited May 18, 2022 by trastrick

[Annie Bynnol 612]

On 16/05/2022 at 13:31, Chekhov said:

 

You do not have to wear a mask in a hospital, even if you are asked you just say you have an exemption and it is dropped instantly no problem. I'm talking from experience.

There are many more humiliating, undignified, embarrassing, miserable experiences to worry about when being a patient than the wearing of a mask. That some principled amateur advises you to lie so that you don't have to wear a mask is not really that important or relevant. The last thing hard pressed medical staff need to deal with is visitors and patients who have been advised to lie.

 

 My interpretation of the above post is that you are advising people to lie about their eligibility for exemption.

And, as you are "... talking from experience.", you have been prepared to lie about your own eligibility.

What other measures are you prepared to take to deceive health workers and put patients at risk?

How far are you prepared to go against medical advice to promote your personal beliefs?

You are confusing your "rights" with personal hygiene, your responsibilities and  the need for a medical institution to safeguard its staff and patients.

 

Lying undermines the principle of exemption for those with genuine medical reasons.

Lying undermines the principle that patients and staff need to be and feel safe and not be exposed to people who are prepared to lie about their medical condition.

 

Its not just Covid that threatens patients and staff and if you are asked to wash your hands you should do so, if you are asked to wear clean clothing you should do so, if you are asked to cover your mouth you should do so.

 

 

[top4718 838]

13 hours ago, melthebell said:

You're so transparent in your use of the MSM lol

Your so transparent in your lack of a grasp of there being more ways to see what the MSM are publishing (mostly nonsense) without actually buying copy.

 

Not seen the full story but the Bill Gates/Guardian/breastfeeding story looks interesting though not at all surprising.

9 hours ago, makapaka said:

Let’s not pretend it’s a none issue - the impacts of the lockdown are absolutely huge in a number of different areas, health, education, economy etc

They're not bothered about any side impacts or damage caused, they just worship at the altar of covid.

Edited May 18, 2022 by top4718

[hackey lad 3,972]

5 minutes ago, top4718 said:

Your so transparent in your lack of a grasp of there being more ways to see what the MSM are publishing (mostly nonsense) without actually buying copy.

 

Not seen the full story but the Bill Gates/Guardian/breastfeeding story looks interesting though not at all surprising.

They're not bothered about any side impacts or damage caused, they just worship at the altar of covid.

 Last sentence . Stop being silly