PapaLazarou   748 #8509 Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, top4718 said: 12% efficacy from the vaccine, they've made billions upon on billions for 12% protection that only lasts a short period of time. Funny how they suddenly find the excess deaths data at the same time as this little nugget is released. You've been well and truly had on a grand scale. 😆 12%? Thats an interesting view. Could you share where you got this data from?  Most RELIABLE sources quote 90%+  https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/information-for-healthcare-professionals-on-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine#pharmacodynamic-properties  Could you share the source of your "fact"?  Thanks  Edited May 6, 2022 by PapaLazarou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad   3,980 #8510 Posted May 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, PapaLazarou said: 12%? Thats an interesting view. Could you share where you got this data from?  Most RELIABLE sources quote 90%+  https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/information-for-healthcare-professionals-on-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine#pharmacodynamic-properties  Could you share the source of your "fact"?  Thanks  Good luck with that question Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   864 #8511 Posted May 6, 2022 They just throw random figures about and hope they stick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
FIRETHORN1   58 #8512 Posted May 6, 2022 I know a lot of people on here disagree with me, but I still maintain that the vaccines that so many of us have willingly taken (including myself) have caused as much - if not more - harm than the Covid virus itself. So many previously fit and healthy people have died horrible deaths or become seriously ill shortly after taking the vaxx - especially from bleeds and clots on the brain and from heart problems. The BBC journalist Lisa Shaw, the musician Lord Zion, the psychotherapist Dr Stephen Wright. Their friends and relatives have been suppressed from reporting their deaths by Mainstream Media and even banned from popular social media platforms, like Twitter and Facebook. You may not agree with the view that the vaccine is dangerous but it makes me very suspicious that anyone praising it is allowed to speak freely, yet anyone criticising it - or even questioning it- is banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   864 #8513 Posted May 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, FIRETHORN1 said: I know a lot of people on here disagree with me, but I still maintain that the vaccines that so many of us have willingly taken (including myself) have caused as much - if not more - harm than the Covid virus itself. So many previously fit and healthy people have died horrible deaths or become seriously ill shortly after taking the vaxx - especially from bleeds and clots on the brain and from heart problems. The BBC journalist Lisa Shaw, the musician Lord Zion, the psychotherapist Dr Stephen Wright. Their friends and relatives have been suppressed from reporting their deaths by Mainstream Media and even banned from popular social media platforms, like Twitter and Facebook. You may not agree with the view that the vaccine is dangerous but it makes me very suspicious that anyone praising it is allowed to speak freely, yet anyone criticising it - or even questioning it- is banned. oh shut up, go back to yer conspiracy sites Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
FIRETHORN1 Â Â 58 #8514 Posted May 6, 2022 I suppose it depends on what you consider to be a "conspiracy" site melthebell. I agree that there is a lot of loony stuff out there, but if mainstream media and official bodies like the ONS & the NHS didn't suppress information, then people wouldn't be as tempted to look at these conspiracy sites. For example, when the BBC journalist Lisa Shaw died of blood clots on the brain shortly after having the AZ jab, the BBC reported her death, but didn't even mention that she'd recently had the jab. I'm not saying the BBC should have blamed her death on the side effects of the jab - but to not even mention that she'd had it? Don't you think that's bit suspicious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delayed   466 #8515 Posted May 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, FIRETHORN1 said: I know a lot of people on here disagree with me, but I still maintain that the vaccines that so many of us have willingly taken (including myself) have caused as much - if not more - harm than the Covid virus itself. So many previously fit and healthy people have died horrible deaths or become seriously ill shortly after taking the vaxx - especially from bleeds and clots on the brain and from heart problems. The BBC journalist Lisa Shaw, the musician Lord Zion, the psychotherapist Dr Stephen Wright. Their friends and relatives have been suppressed from reporting their deaths by Mainstream Media and even banned from popular social media platforms, like Twitter and Facebook. You may not agree with the view that the vaccine is dangerous but it makes me very suspicious that anyone praising it is allowed to speak freely, yet anyone criticising it - or even questioning it- is banned. You've just criticized the vaccine and you haven't been banned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nikki-red   308 #8516 Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, FIRETHORN1 said: I suppose it depends on what you consider to be a "conspiracy" site melthebell. I agree that there is a lot of loony stuff out there, but if mainstream media and official bodies like the ONS & the NHS didn't suppress information, then people wouldn't be as tempted to look at these conspiracy sites. For example, when the BBC journalist Lisa Shaw died of blood clots on the brain shortly after having the AZ jab, the BBC reported her death, but didn't even mention that she'd recently had the jab. I'm not saying the BBC should have blamed her death on the side effects of the jab - but to not even mention that she'd had it? Don't you think that's bit suspicious? ‘A radio presenter died due to complications from the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine, a coroner has found‘  From the BBC…  https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-58330796 Edited May 6, 2022 by nikki-red Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   864 #8517 Posted May 6, 2022 35 minutes ago, FIRETHORN1 said: I suppose it depends on what you consider to be a "conspiracy" site melthebell. I agree that there is a lot of loony stuff out there, but if mainstream media and official bodies like the ONS & the NHS didn't suppress information, then people wouldn't be as tempted to look at these conspiracy sites. For example, when the BBC journalist Lisa Shaw died of blood clots on the brain shortly after having the AZ jab, the BBC reported her death, but didn't even mention that she'd recently had the jab. I'm not saying the BBC should have blamed her death on the side effects of the jab - but to not even mention that she'd had it? Don't you think that's bit suspicious? no its not suspicious, what you said is total ********, people dying from the vaccine have been mentioned in the media, people criticising the vaccine havent been banned from most places, its usual conspiracy bobbins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   261 #8518 Posted May 6, 2022 Yeah, apart from the deaths being on BBC main news ,local news and in the national press and on Twitter it's been ruthlessly suppressed Utter nonsense . The idea that the vaccines have been more injurious than the virus is utterly loopy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
FIRETHORN1   58 #8519 Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) Thanks nikki-red. I stand corrected. And yes Delayed - I haven't been banned from SF for criticising the vaccine - but I bet I would have been banned if I'd said the same thing on Twitter. This why I quite like SF. At least we are allowed to express our opinions on here - even if those opinions don't agree with the majority. Edited May 6, 2022 by FIRETHORN1 typos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   261 #8520 Posted May 6, 2022 Think was only yesterday another 420ish deaths were added to the UK total of 175,000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...