top4718 838 #4141 Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, RJRB said: You will leave it as you abandon your other previous suggestions because you have no sensible come back. Good night Tops Similar to the posts that the gullible ignore as they don't have an answer, it will all come out in the wash. Goodnight. Just now, butlers said: https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/life-saving-sheffield-wednesday-medics-praised-462399?amp Keep going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 600 #4142 Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, RJRB said: What I think is that there were some and Kevin Gage wasn’t playing ,watching or punditting at the time. Hundreds of games played ever weekend and he can only be at one of them. You need to be a bit more questioning and analytical of information,which as an experienced writer of risk assessments would be an asset Cardiac arrests in spectators German football 2008/09 & 2009/10 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25047159/ "Cardiac arrests are not a rare occurrence in German soccer stadiums." 7 acute coronary events in one season 2000-01, Barcelona. https://www.revespcardiol.org/en-acute-coronary-events-among-spectators-articulo-13074875 "A total of 7 episodes of ACS were recorded, 1 involving sudden death, 4 involving acute myocardial infarction and 2 involving angina pectoris." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718 838 #4143 Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Longcol said: Cardiac arrests in spectators German football 2008/09 & 2009/10 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25047159/ "Cardiac arrests are not a rare occurrence in German soccer stadiums." 7 acute coronary events in one season 2000-01, Barcelona. https://www.revespcardiol.org/en-acute-coronary-events-among-spectators-articulo-13074875 "A total of 7 episodes of ACS were recorded, 1 involving sudden death, 4 involving acute myocardial infarction and 2 involving angina pectoris." We've had seven in about two months here. Keep trying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers 259 #4144 Posted January 14, 2022 Terry Yoraths ,ex Owl manager, son also a footballer had a fatal heart attack . Sudden Death Syndrome was was the cause in about twenty healthy sports people a year in the UK before covid and vaccines were a thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718 838 #4145 Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, butlers said: Terry Yoraths ,ex Owl manager, son also a footballer had a fatal heart attack . Sudden Death Syndrome was was the cause in about twenty healthy sports people a year in the UK before covid and vaccines were a thing OK the vaccines are perfectly safe and no ones has had a heart attack linked to them, not one. Is that better for you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 600 #4146 Posted January 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, top4718 said: We've had seven in about two months here. Keep trying. Seven among how many spectators at how many clubs? Not a rare occurence pre-vaccination even given a very quick google. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers 259 #4147 Posted January 15, 2022 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timeslive.co.za/amp/sport/soccer/2010-03-03-european-stadiums-ill-equipped-for-fans-suffering-heart-attacks/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Norbert 145 #4148 Posted January 15, 2022 I recently ran into a mate who I'd not seen for ages, he was going to let me know when he felt like a bike ride over last summer, but I heard nothing. Turns out he got covid and while ill with it he had a heart attack. As it happens I've currently got covid - 4 days in and sniffles, mild headache, squits and fatigue. Hopefully I'll not be having a heart attack, I've had all the jabs, not just 1 like he'd had at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY 3,468 #4149 Posted January 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, Norbert said: I recently ran into a mate who I'd not seen for ages, he was going to let me know when he felt like a bike ride over last summer, but I heard nothing. Turns out he got covid and while ill with it he had a heart attack. As it happens I've currently got covid - 4 days in and sniffles, mild headache, squits and fatigue. Hopefully I'll not be having a heart attack, I've had all the jabs, not just 1 like he'd had at the time. So he'd had a jab then has a heart attack whilst he has covid? Could be the jab I suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Norbert 145 #4150 Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: So he'd had a jab then has a heart attack whilst he has covid? Could be the jab I suppose. In my experience no jab + covid = death or ventilator. The fellow had a stent in already so most likely it was the strain of being in bed with covid for a fortnight. Edited January 15, 2022 by Norbert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY 3,468 #4151 Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Norbert said: In my experience no jab + covid = death or ventilator. The fellow had a stent in already so most likely it was the strain of being in bed with covid for a fortnight. How is he now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Chekhov 488 #4152 Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) OMG ! They really do never give up do they ? When I say "they" I mean scaremongering "experts" and the scaremongering media : COVID-19: Omicron 'exit wave' possible in the summer, scientists say https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-exit-wave-possible-in-the-summer-scientists-say-12516106 Early data has shown Omicron to be a milder form of COVID-19, but that does not mean everyone can relax as hospital admissions are yet to peak, the scientists say. A wave of Omicron cases is possible over the summer as people resume social activities and the effect of the vaccines wanes, according to scientists advising the government. Experts from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) said the precise timing and magnitude of the "exit wave" is "highly dependent on both population behaviour and the scale of the current wave, and cannot be predicted with any certainty". According to modelling, the projection is for between fewer than 1,000 admissions each day in the next wave to about 2,000 each day, if plan B restrictions remain in place until the end of January and are followed by a gradual return to socialising. "According to modelling" = Surely the three words that sum up this Pandemic.... 12 hours ago, RJRB said: @Chekhov Gloating is a negative response ,but that seems to be where you derive pleasure. It’s as well that you have your own business then you can be right all the time in your own head. You used the word gloating, not me. I do not accept it. You have a bit of a point about me running my own business, I suspect the self employed have probably been less happy about accepting many of these restrictions because being self employed makes it much harder to accept doing stuff you do not want to do and are certain is the wrong thing to do. I left employment mainly for that reason, I could not cope with people who less about how to do stuff than I did telling me what to do. The subsequent course of events indicate I did the right thing. Edited January 15, 2022 by Chekhov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...