alandrea0   16 #1 Posted November 24, 2021 It seems the government have approved the new law to sentence anyone to life imprisonment if they kill an emergency worker while carrying out their duties...  In my opinion that law is seriously flawed and unjust......  Why does it only apply to emergency workers carrying out their duties, why not at anytime? Why is it just emergency workers? Isn't a baby, a child or woman's life just as important to get justice?  Life sentences should be given to anyone killing anyone and not just because they are emergency workers..  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookesey   632 #2 Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, alandrea0 said: It seems the government have approved the new law to sentence anyone to life imprisonment if they kill an emergency worker while carrying out their duties...  In my opinion that law is seriously flawed and unjust......  Why does it only apply to emergency workers carrying out their duties, why not at anytime? Why is it just emergency workers? Isn't a baby, a child or woman's life just as important to get justice?  Life sentences should be given to anyone killing anyone and not just because they are emergency workers..  Their definition of an Emergency Worker and what they were doing when killed would help, pulling someone out of a burning building would come higher than making the tea IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   259 #3 Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) Still not sure what difference the new law makes ,surely there's a minimum time set to serve before you can apply for parole. I think the topic header is wrong it implies a " full life tarrif" which only about 20 people are under. Edited November 24, 2021 by butlers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY   3,468 #4 Posted November 24, 2021 It's a terrible idea and I hope it doesn't happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bargepole23 Â Â 337 #5 Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, crookesey said: Their definition of an Emergency Worker and what they were doing when killed would help, pulling someone out of a burning building would come higher than making the tea IMHO. Not sure I understand that, but if you are saying that someone who pulls people out of a burning building is in some way worth more than someone who makes the tea, then I disagree. Â A persons worth is defined by far more than what they do at work, a persons "worth" should have no bearing whatsoever on whatever sentence might be passed on theie assailant, should they be assaulted/murdered. Â Apologies if that was not what you meant. Edited November 24, 2021 by Bargepole23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   216 #6 Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, The_DADDY said: It's a terrible idea and I hope it doesn't happen. I agree. In the link below a train guard was sent to jail for five years because he signalled the train to set off too soon. Had he killed an emergency worker, would it be life in jail. Five years is a tough sentence for making a mistake.  https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/15/train-guard-jailed-death-teenager Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   259 #7 Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) Now I have had a read ,it's a terrible law. Currently judges can give a life sentence for manslaughter anyway. All cases are different, discretion in sentencing should be left to the judge Edited November 24, 2021 by butlers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB   688 #8 Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, butlers said: Now I have a read ,it's a terrible law. Currently judges can give a life sentence for manslaughter anyway. All cases are different, discretion in sentencing should be left to the judge I agree,but I would stiffen the sentencing of those  guilty of assaulting police officers,ambulance and hospital staff . We have sufficient laws to cover most events,but the system fails at the detection and punishment stage in many cases.  Edited November 24, 2021 by RJRB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   259 #9 Posted November 24, 2021 Yes altering sentencing guidelines is an entirely more sensible idea.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   259 #10 Posted November 24, 2021 Like a lawyer has said you could have a situation where a criminal pushes a cop way ,they stumble and fall badly and die of a head injury ,that could get you life. Alternatively ,a criminal stabs a officer multiple times but he lives and gets a much smaller sentence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY   3,468 #11 Posted November 24, 2021 50 minutes ago, West 77 said:  You can not be serious? Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY   3,468 #12 Posted November 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, West 77 said: Because I can see no good reason why those committing criminal acts against the people working in the emergency services shouldn't receive life sentences if their criminal act results in the death of the said emergency worker. So because you cant see a reason that means no one else can? Right, got it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...