harvey19 541 #37 Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dannyno said: It's worth looking at the government's list of shortage occupations (for visa purposes, but relevant here). It includes medicine, dentistry and the others you mention, but it also includes: Archaeologists IT business analysts and system designers Programmers and software developers Web designers Cyber security specialists Architects Artists Ballet dancers Musicians Arts officers and directors Graphics designers Care workers All except I guess ballet dancing are courses which are taught at universities. There are teaching shortages too, and teaching is taught at universities - the usual teaching specialisms we're short of are of course in STEM subjects, but there are also shortages in modern languages and RE. I don't dispute this list except perhaps 1 or2. I also accept your final paragraph. What is needed is a list of the other subjects that are offered by various universities I have heard a suggestion that people who study "necessary" subjects should not pay tuition fees if they practice their professions for 5 years in this country. Edited October 26, 2021 by harvey19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dannyno 19 #38 Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, harvey19 said: I don't dispute this list except perhaps 1 or2. I also accept your final paragraph. What is needed is a list of the other subjects that are offered by various universities I have heard a suggestion that people who study "necessary" subjects should not pay tuition fees if they practice their professions for 5 years in this country. It's the government's list, remember, I didn't make it up. It also ought to be pointed out that your idea that we should "drop the courses which do not lead to careers in necessary areas of skill shortages" would rapidly create shortages in the sectors fed by the "dropped" courses. Clearly those specialisms where there are shortages need to be supported, but that doesn't mean that you can do without the specialisms where there currently aren't shortages. "Necessary" subjects aren't only the subjects where there is currently a crisis. For example, there doesn't appear to be a shortage of lawyers at the moment, but that doesn't mean it would be sensible to discourage people from becoming lawyers (no jokes please). I would also argue it's a good thing to ensure that education remains broad-based rather than excessively narrow, because everyone benefits from different specialists working together - biologists and philosophers, for example. If you want to find out what Sheffield University teaches at undergraduate level, just look at the list: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/2022 But you can find courses anywhere here: https://digital.ucas.com/search Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
harvey19 541 #39 Posted October 26, 2021 Sheffield is an highly rated red brick university, my daughter read mathematics there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
BigAl1 143 #40 Posted October 27, 2021 3 hours ago, LovePotion said: Won't they get a high state pension anyway as their NI contributions will be high? Perhaps you should enroll on an economics course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dannyno 19 #41 Posted October 27, 2021 5 hours ago, LovePotion said: Won't they get a high state pension anyway as their NI contributions will be high? No. https://www.gov.uk/new-state-pension/how-its-calculated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
gamezone07 23 #42 Posted October 29, 2021 On 26/10/2021 at 14:52, Dannyno said: It's worth looking at the government's list of shortage occupations (for visa purposes, but relevant here). It includes medicine, dentistry and the others you mention, but it also includes: Archaeologists IT business analysts and system designers Programmers and software developers Web designers Cyber security specialists Architects Artists Ballet dancers Musicians Arts officers and directors Graphics designers Care workers All except I guess ballet dancing are courses which are taught at universities. There are teaching shortages too, and teaching is taught at universities - the usual teaching specialisms we're short of are of course in STEM subjects, but there are also shortages in modern languages and RE. Never trust the University management, they closed down, with little warning, an excellent and well respected Archaeology Dept Those who forget the past............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
