Bus Timetable Changes 31 October 2021

[Andy C 85]

Changes being made primarily to address reliability issues caused by the national shortage of bus drivers and increasing traffic congestion:

 

route 11/11a - withdrawn and replaced by new route 1a Chapeltown-Hemsworth which runs the same route as the current 11 from Chapeltown to Sheffield then via the current route 11a to Herdings terminus, continuing on to Hemsworth. Service will run up to every 15 minutes on weekdays, every 20 minutes on Saturdays and every 30 minutes on Sundays. Evening service is hourly. Route 1 is unchanged and continues to serve Blackstock Road.

 

route 24 - Mon-Sat daytime frequency reduced to every 20 minutes.

 

route 25 - minor timetable change but still up to every 15 minutes. Some services will become double deck operated.

 

route 43/44 - weekday daytime combined service reduced  to every 20 mins

 

 route 51 - daytime frequency reduced to every 15 minutes on weekdays and every 20 minutes on Saturdays.

 

route 52/52a - combined frequency reduced to every 7/8 mins Mon-Sat daytime and to every 15 mins Sundays.

 

route 56 - frequency reduced to every 20 mins Mon-Fri daytime and every 30 mins Saturday daytime.

 

route 65 - amended Sunday timetable

 

route 75 - daytime frequency reduced to every 15 mins on weekdays and every 20 mins on Saturdays

 

route 76 - daytime frequency reduced to every 15 mins on weekdays and every 20 mins on Saturdays

 

route 76a - hourly service, reduced to operate just between Sheffield City Centre to Chancet Wood.

 

route 81/82 - combined service frequency reduced to every 15 minutes  on weekday daytime.

 

route 83a - Mon-Sat daytime frequency reduced to every 40 minutes. Route 83 is unchanged.

 

route 95/95a - Daytime combined frequency reduced to every 15 minutes

 

route 120 - daytime combined frequency reduced to every 7/8 minutes Mon-Sat and every 15 minutes on Sundays.

 

route SL1/SL1a - combined daytime frequency reduced to 3 buses per hour Mon-Sat and 2 buses per hour Sunday.

 

route X57 - Route shortened to operate Sheffield-Manchester City Centre, no longer continuing to the airport. Late evening service continues to be suspended.

 

New timetables available at https://travelsouthyorkshire.com/en-gb/newsupdates/service-changes

 

 

 

Edited October 19, 2021 by Andy C

[HeHasRisen 3,373]

So the new X57 is bombing already, who knew people didnt want to get a bus from Sheffield to Manchester Airport eh?

[Andy C 85]

Just now, HeHasRisen said:

So the new X57 is bombing already, who knew people didnt want to get a bus from Sheffield to Manchester Airport eh?

They simply don't have enough drivers to deliver the service all the way to the airport at present.

[BigAl1 143]

no doubt wont be long before supertram follow suit

[HeHasRisen 3,373]

1 hour ago, BigAl1 said:

no doubt wont be long before supertram follow suit

Pretty sure that current service levels on Supertram are already cut from what they were in Feb 2020, maybe someone can confirm.

[BigAl1 143]

Not the yellow tram

[Andy C 85]

4 hours ago, HeHasRisen said:

Pretty sure that current service levels on Supertram are already cut from what they were in Feb 2020, maybe someone can confirm.

Blue is reduced from every 10-12 mins to every 15 mins in the daytime (still every 20 mins eve/Sun same as pre-covid) and Tram Train is half hourly all day every day, normally 3 per hour Mon-Sat daytime. The evening Tram Train service is actually now better than pre-covid incidentally! Yellow and Purple are running to the normal Pre-Covid timetable at present.

[Michael_N 36]

On 19/10/2021 at 13:25, Andy C said:

Changes being made primarily to address reliability issues caused by the national shortage of bus drivers and increasing traffic congestion:

 

route 11/11a - withdrawn and replaced by new route 1a Chapeltown-Hemsworth which runs the same route as the current 11 from Chapeltown to Sheffield then via the current route 11a to Herdings terminus, continuing on to Hemsworth. Service will run up to every 15 minutes on weekdays, every 20 minutes on Saturdays and every 30 minutes on Sundays. Evening service is hourly. Route 1 is unchanged and continues to serve Blackstock Road.

 

route 24 - Mon-Sat daytime frequency reduced to every 20 minutes.

 

route 25 - minor timetable change but still up to every 15 minutes. Some services will become double deck operated.

 

route 43/44 - weekday daytime combined service reduced  to every 20 mins

 

 route 51 - daytime frequency reduced to every 15 minutes on weekdays and every 20 minutes on Saturdays.

 

route 52/52a - combined frequency reduced to every 7/8 mins Mon-Sat daytime and to every 15 mins Sundays.

 

route 56 - frequency reduced to every 20 mins Mon-Fri daytime and every 30 mins Saturday daytime.

 

route 65 - amended Sunday timetable

 

route 75 - daytime frequency reduced to every 15 mins on weekdays and every 20 mins on Saturdays

 

route 76 - daytime frequency reduced to every 15 mins on weekdays and every 20 mins on Saturdays

 

route 76a - hourly service, reduced to operate just between Sheffield City Centre to Chancet Wood.

 

route 81/82 - combined service frequency reduced to every 15 minutes  on weekday daytime.

 

route 83a - Mon-Sat daytime frequency reduced to every 40 minutes. Route 83 is unchanged.

 

route 95/95a - Daytime combined frequency reduced to every 15 minutes

 

route 120 - daytime combined frequency reduced to every 7/8 minutes Mon-Sat and every 15 minutes on Sundays.

 

route SL1/SL1a - combined daytime frequency reduced to 3 buses per hour Mon-Sat and 2 buses per hour Sunday.

 

route X57 - Route shortened to operate Sheffield-Manchester City Centre, no longer continuing to the airport. Late evening service continues to be suspended.

 

New timetables available at https://travelsouthyorkshire.com/en-gb/newsupdates/service-changes

 

 

 

83/83A changes are a complete laugh, so First keep their half hourly service on the 83, but Stagecoach decide to reduce their half hourly service to a 40 minute headway… so every few hours there will probably be 2 buses on the 83/83A following each other around.

 

Great  joined up thinking… pathetic from Stagecoach yet again! 

[BigAl1 143]

9 hours ago, Michael_N said:

83/83A changes are a complete laugh, so First keep their half hourly service on the 83, but Stagecoach decide to reduce their half hourly service to a 40 minute headway… so every few hours there will probably be 2 buses on the 83/83A following each other around.

 

Great  joined up thinking… pathetic from Stagecoach yet again! 

What a shame first and Stagecoach could not work together but then Stagecoach can't even manage joined up writing internally with the trams with very often the yellow and blue trams following each other between hillsborough and the town of the yellow tram and tram train doing the same. No concept of customer service operationally led

 

have not as yet seen the joined up timetable for the tram and SL1/A bus

 

 

[1295galaxy 20]

its not the bus times that needs changing,its the number of times a bus driver waits at a stop when there no one there,you ask the driver why,an he says i am waiting for a timer,so the journeys now are taking a longer to get to,why they have brought this in,is just stupid,and the number of cars on the roads is just showing why its bad,We never had this in Sheffield before,so why as Stagecoach brought this idea in,is just turning  loads away from catching a bus

Edited October 23, 2021 by 1295galaxy

[Resident 1,185]

2 hours ago, 1295galaxy said:

its not the bus times that needs changing,its the number of times a bus driver waits at a stop when there no one there,you ask the driver why,an he says i am waiting for a timer,so the journeys now are taking a longer to get to,why they have brought this in,is just stupid,and the number of cars on the roads is just showing why its bad,We never had this in Sheffield before,so why as Stagecoach brought this idea in,is just turning  loads away from catching a bus

*facepalm* 

 

I can't believe this needs explaining again. 

Routes have time points. A set point on the route at which if the bus arrives prior to it's scheduled time it stops until that scheduled time. 

At times when the route is quieter, because of low passenger numbers and/or minimal traffic then these time points are a valuable tool to keep the bus on track time-wise.

Time points have existed for donkeys years, they're not a new thing, all operators use them.

As someone who drives over 4000 miles  a month, not for work around South Yorkshire, I can assure you traffic levels are still not near pre-covid levels & from people I know who work within the public transport industry, niether are passenger numbers. You may be percieving that they're high because you've gotten used to almost no traffic over the last 18 months. 

How would you feel as a bus passenger if you got to a bus stop, waited for the bus only to find that it had run early because it had not been planned with timepoints so now you had a 30-60min wait for the next one? 

Also have you ever thought that these bus drivers are behind that wheel for upto 5 & 1/2 hours at a time, upto 10 hours a day & a 2-3 min stop to have a quick drink and a brief rest of their foot might be beneficial to them or are you one of the many people that think that drivers are just drones and only deserve contempt from yourself? 

Edited October 23, 2021 by Resident

[HeHasRisen 3,373]

18 hours ago, 1295galaxy said:

its not the bus times that needs changing,its the number of times a bus driver waits at a stop when there no one there,you ask the driver why,an he says i am waiting for a timer,so the journeys now are taking a longer to get to,why they have brought this in,is just stupid,and the number of cars on the roads is just showing why its bad,We never had this in Sheffield before,so why as Stagecoach brought this idea in,is just turning  loads away from catching a bus

You are an actual idiot.