International Day For The Eradication Of Poverty

[Anna B 1,414]

Today is International day for the Eradication of poverty apparently.

According to 'Sunday Morning Live' (BBC1 ) 20 - 25% of people in the UK are living in poverty. This group includes people in full time work, people out of work, people in debt, those  with disabilities, the carers of others,  and those no longer 'just about managing.' More and more people are going to get sucked into this group.

 

Rents and bills are rising, food prices are going up, inflation is taking off, homelessness is set to rise massively with the withdrawal of £20 Universal Credit, fuel poverty is going to be a big problem this winter with many people having to choose between heating and eating etc.

We are supposed to be a rich country. I think this is unacceptable and something must be done. But what?

 

Your views? 

[Mr Bloke 1,445]

Hmmm...

There's lots of things that can be done...

... but none of them would be very popular with the folk on here, so I'll keep them to myself!

[cuttsie 1,090]

The Country's top people along with the rich and famous make sure that their off spring get the best education and perks early in life , this leads to the recurrence of that situation throughout the generations in this Country . They run every aspect of our lives from Government to the food on our table .

 

We are not invited to the party so the situation will not change in the foreseeable future .

 

[Mr Bloke 1,445]

3 minutes ago, cuttsie said:

The Country's top people along with the rich and famous make sure that their off spring get the best education and perks early in life , this leads to the recurrence of that situation throughout the generations in this Country . They run every aspect of our lives from Government to the food on our table .

 

We are not invited to the party so the situation will not change in the foreseeable future .

 

Hmmm...

Anyone with any nous does not sit around waiting for an invite...

[Anna B 1,414]

42 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said:

Hmmm...

There's lots of things that can be done...

... but none of them would be very popular with the folk on here, so I'll keep them to myself!

Please don't. 

I'd be interested, that's why I'm asking for opinions and ideas. 

 

28 minutes ago, cuttsie said:

The Country's top people along with the rich and famous make sure that their off spring get the best education and perks early in life , this leads to the recurrence of that situation throughout the generations in this Country . They run every aspect of our lives from Government to the food on our table .

 

We are not invited to the party so the situation will not change in the foreseeable future .

 

Yes it will. It will get worse unless something is done ... 

 

Edited October 17, 2021 by Anna B

[Padders 2,863]

1 hour ago, Anna B said:

 

We are supposed to be a rich country. I think this is unacceptable and something must be done. But what?

 

Your views? 

Proper Socialism Anna....

Next election ???

[Anna B 1,414]

9 minutes ago, Padders said:

Proper Socialism Anna....

Next election ???

I would agree, but under Starmer I doubt it will happen, he's not a Socialist.

[cuttsie 1,090]

1 hour ago, Mr Bloke said:

Hmmm...

Anyone with any nous does not sit around waiting for an invite...

1917

[ECCOnoob 1,034]

I'd like to know what sort of ludicrous definitions are being applied that puts a quarter of the entire UK population in so called "poverty".

 

Just what exactly are we looking at here when potentially a full-time worker on minimum net wage over £1,200 a month and with the support of things such as free universal Healthcare, free education, mandatory housing provision and additional state top ups is seriously declared poverty. 

 

There are literally people starving to death in African countries, people without running water, electricity, and basic medical care. In the Far East, there are literally millions of people living in shantytowns surrounded by piles of garbage, rats and disease. These are people living with basically nothing, very little furnishing or goods and many items are having to either scrounge off the streets, recycle from rubbish sites or make themselves. What really is a kicker is that on top of their extremely difficult lives, they are the people who are working for pennies a day in factories manufacturing the goods and supplies that our so-called poverty population is lapping up when they go on their shopping trips to the discount stores.

 

That's REAL poverty and yet our so-called "poverty" are quite happy to take advantage of that cheap prices on the goods and plentiful supply being just there readilly available to them whenever they want to indulge in the consumer society.

 

If this truely is some international initiative as the title of the day describes, just how on earth are we seriously to compare someone living in a shanty town or a mudhut on pennies a day within the same definitions of poverty as someone living in subsidised state housing, with top-up benefits, healthcare and a potential salary of up to £15,000 a year.

 

No wonder the message keeps being lost.

[Mr Bloke 1,445]

6 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

I'd like to know what sort of ludicrous definitions are being applied that puts a quarter of the entire UK population in so called "poverty".

 

Just what exactly are we looking at here when potentially a full-time worker on minimum net wage over £1,200 a month and with the support of things such as free universal Healthcare, free education, mandatory housing provision and additional state top ups is seriously declared poverty. 

 

There are literally people starving to death in African countries, people without running water, electricity, and basic medical care. In the Far East, there are literally millions of people living in shantytowns surrounded by piles of garbage, rats and disease. These are people living with basically nothing, very little furnishing or goods and many items are having to either scrounge off the streets, recycle from rubbish sites or make themselves. What really is a kicker is that on top of their extremely difficult lives, they are the people who are working for pennies a day in factories manufacturing the goods and supplies that our so-called poverty population is lapping up when they go on their shopping trips to the discount stores.

 

That's REAL poverty and yet our so-called "poverty" are quite happy to take advantage of that cheap prices on the goods and plentiful supply being just there readilly available to them whenever they want to indulge in the consumer society.

 

If this truely is some international initiative as the title of the day describes, just how on earth are we seriously to compare someone living in a shanty town or a mudhut on pennies a day within the same definitions of poverty as someone living in subsidised state housing, with top-up benefits, healthcare and a potential salary of up to £15,000 a year.

 

No wonder the message keeps being lost.

Spot on!

[crazyhorse 37]

12 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

I'd like to know what sort of ludicrous definitions are being applied that puts a quarter of the entire UK population in so called "poverty".

 

Just what exactly are we looking at here when potentially a full-time worker on minimum net wage over £1,200 a month and with the support of things such as free universal Healthcare, free education, mandatory housing provision and additional state top ups is seriously declared poverty. 

 

There are literally people starving to death in African countries, people without running water, electricity, and basic medical care. In the Far East, there are literally millions of people living in shantytowns surrounded by piles of garbage, rats and disease. These are people living with basically nothing, very little furnishing or goods and many items are having to either scrounge off the streets, recycle from rubbish sites or make themselves. What really is a kicker is that on top of their extremely difficult lives, they are the people who are working for pennies a day in factories manufacturing the goods and supplies that our so-called poverty population is lapping up when they go on their shopping trips to the discount stores.

 

That's REAL poverty and yet our so-called "poverty" are quite happy to take advantage of that cheap prices on the goods and plentiful supply being just there readilly available to them whenever they want to indulge in the consumer society.

 

If this truely is some international initiative as the title of the day describes, just how on earth are we seriously to compare someone living in a shanty town or a mudhut on pennies a day within the same definitions of poverty as someone living in subsidised state housing, with top-up benefits, healthcare and a potential salary of up to £15,000 a year.

 

No wonder the message keeps being lost.

I agree.

 

I guess this measure of poverty is something like "everyone below a certain percentage of average income" is classed as in poverty...

 

Trouble is I reckon the vast majority of people outside the "professional poverty industry" that has been built up around that arbitrary figure...simply do not see 1 in 4 of their friends, family, or the people who live in their town as being in poverty.

The whole measure is counter productive and simply makes the vast majority of people think that the figure is made up...which I believe it is.

 

I have seen real poverty in India, Indonesia and North Africa and it makes you feel sick, to have one armed kids, who look weeks from death tugging at your clothing...

 

The poverty situation in this country is simply not comparable and if it was, why are people risking their lives to sail to this supposedly horrible country every day?

 

Having said that, I do know people close to me who are scratching a living on a small pension...but I don't even think that they would be happy to class themselves as in poverty.

 

This emotion based approach to societies problems pushed by the Left is why they never get anywhere at the ballot box...

Most people simply can't see what they are talking about.

[El Cid 216]

3 hours ago, Anna B said:

Your views? 

I earn around £16k and get no benefits, do I get a check in the post?