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National Hate Crime Week. Should Shouting At Or Close Passing Cyclists Be A Hate

National Hate Crime Week. Should shouting at or close passing cyclists be a hate crime?  

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  1. 1. National Hate Crime Week. Should shouting at or close passing cyclists be a hate crime?

    • Yes
      10
    • No
      26
    • What does close pass mean?
      1

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  • Poll closed on 31/10/21 at 23:59

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3 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Beware this 'Hate crime' syndrome. 

 

Unfortunately you can't change human nature by legislation, nor can you tell people what to think.

 

I'm as much against discrimination, unpleasantness, vitriol etc as the next, and I can honestly say I don't 'hate' anybody, but that's more to do with the way I was brought up than anything else, certainly not legislation.  I get ****** off in various circumstances, as does everybody, but that's a long way from a 'hate crime.'

 

And you have to wonder what comes next? What misdemenour is going to be seen as a hate crime that you can be locked up for? We are losing our freedom of speech to the 'woke' brigade and 'Hate crimes' are potentially another chance to limit our freedom of expression. 

 

I cannot think of a single hate crime which isn't already adequately covered with a current law, such as breach of the peace etc.

 

Let's redress 'Hate' with understanding, education and reason.

There is so much hate crime I think we need a special body to enforce theses laws, after all we cannot have people thinking non approved thoughts - maybe they should have a distinct uniform - black, with a peaked cap and jackboots would look good.

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What annoys me most about cyclists is those self-important ones who want to set the world to dance to their tune.  You've seen the ones - they ride like they own the road, expect deference from motorists, shout and argue with them when they don't get it, post footage online (and no-doubt send footge to the police for minor infringements) from their helmet mounted video-cameras, then move to the pavement when it suits them to avoid queues at lights and crossings, then join the new traffic as if they own that road as well.  They should be made to have driving licences and pay for licence plates like motorists, pay road tax, and face bans for infringements, just like car-owners do.  Equality for all!

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21 minutes ago, Thirsty Relic said:

What annoys me most about cyclists is those self-important ones who want to set the world to dance to their tune.  You've seen the ones - they ride like they own the road, expect deference from motorists, shout and argue with them when they don't get it, post footage online (and no-doubt send footge to the police for minor infringements) from their helmet mounted video-cameras, then move to the pavement when it suits them to avoid queues at lights and crossings, then join the new traffic as if they own that road as well.  They should be made to have driving licences and pay for licence plates like motorists, pay road tax, and face bans for infringements, just like car-owners do.  Equality for all!

What annoys me most about  motorists is those self-important ones who want to set the world to dance to their tune.  You've seen the ones - they drive  like they own the road, expect deference from everyone else (including other motorists, because no one drives as well as they do) , shout and argue with them when they don't get it, post footage online (and no-doubt send footge to the police for minor infringements) from their dashboard mounted video-cameras, then jump red lights when it suits them, because they're too important to have to wait. 

They should be made to have driving licenc... Oh hang on... 

 

See what I did there? People are people, on a bike or in a car.  If you're an obnoxious tosser it doesn't matter what your vehicle is... 

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Poll currently standing at 7-0

 

Dont think it's going the way the OP hoped.

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Just now, HeHasRisen said:

Poll currently standing at 7-0

 

Dont think it's going the way the OP hoped.

Incorrect 😀

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You only voted that way to spite the poster on the first page, you dont genuinely believe that adding cyclists to the same list as ethnic minorities and homosexuals is actually a goer.

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5 hours ago, ab6262 said:

when you pay some road tax and insurance for your pedal cycles people may take you more seriously! and yes you are hated, you hold traffic up on country roads , you cut across pavements to avoid lights, you are generally obnoxious and think you are saving the planet!....... you are not.

i will give you a t cut pass!

Armchair hardcase speaks.

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10 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said:

Armchair hardcase speaks.

His tone aside, this thread is an utter nonsense.

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He is not alone though with his thoughts, many others utter the same thing.

The Police have been criticised in the past for their institutional  attitudes to miners during the coal strikes, Liverpool fans in Hillsborough or girls in Rotherham.

So should drivers be criticised for their attitude towards other road users where they put lives in danger.

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3 minutes ago, Findlay said:

He is not alone though with his thoughts, many others utter the same thing.

The Police have been criticised in the past for their institutional  attitudes to miners during the coal strikes, Liverpool fans in Hillsborough or girls in Rotherham.

So should drivers be criticised for their attitude towards other road users where they put lives in danger.

Nobody is saying they shouldnt. The issue I have is a) it's hardly a "hate crime", and b) why cant it apply the other way round?

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Due to the pandemic there are far more cyclists, runners and walkers, and good on them. OK some of the cyclists and runners are not 100% confident, but the same can be said for some drivers. Come the end of this pandemic I reckon that there will be a lot more fit people than before it.

 

As for bad mannered people firing insults at each other, who’s going to police it?

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6 hours ago, ab6262 said:

when you pay some road tax and insurance for your pedal cycles people may take you more seriously! and yes you are hated, you hold traffic up on country roads , you cut across pavements to avoid lights, you are generally obnoxious and think you are saving the planet!....... you are not.

i will give you a t cut pass!

Grow up pal. No, not a hate crime, that's ridiculous. But a bit of common courtesy and not putting people's lives at risk is a reasonable expectation, at least of any adult*

 

 

 

 

 

 

*excludes chronological adults with tiny child minds

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