Keir Starmer And Angela Rayner Are Scum, Are You?

[El Cid 216]

12 minutes ago, leviathan13 said:

Abbott is proof that you can be educated and intelligent, but still be an idiot.

 

Nothing to do with race and sex/gender... everything to do with her having idiotic views... and I'm a Labour voter!

I put some of her errors down to ill health, old age(68) or the media making it appear worse. Johnson has said some hilarious things, but people just laugh them off, because he is a clown.

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I watched the speech by Starmer, no passion at all, it was just like an audition for a part in a play and he read it very badly, his forced smile at the end of it was just that a forced smile. The Labour Party needs a leader who’s actually gone through the same life experience as the working class people that the Labour Party was supposed to protect but they’ve sadly lost their way, Dennis Skinner, Joe Ashton where as passionate as you could get when fighting for the down trodden of this country, I’d have more respect for a miner speaking in the chamber in all his dirt that the well suited leader we have now.

[Anna B 1,410]

10 minutes ago, lazarus said:

I watched the speech by Starmer, no passion at all, it was just like an audition for a part in a play and he read it very badly, his forced smile at the end of it was just that a forced smile. The Labour Party needs a leader who’s actually gone through the same life experience as the working class people that the Labour Party was supposed to protect but they’ve sadly lost their way, Dennis Skinner, Joe Ashton where as passionate as you could get when fighting for the down trodden of this country, I’d have more respect for a miner speaking in the chamber in all his dirt that the well suited leader we have now.

Angela Rayner is just such a person. Do you want her as leader?

[cuttsie 1,090]

14 hours ago, CaptainSwing said:

To be fair, you and I were talking about education, not intelligence - it's notorious that the two don't necessarily go together.  Nick Griffin also went to Cambridge.  David Cameron had the most expensive education money can buy and got a first in PPE, even being described by his tutor as one of the ablest students he'd ever had!

 

As for Diane Abbott, it seems clear that people who criticize her on the grounds of intelligence first decide that they don't like her for reasons of racism (and possibly also misogyny etc.), and then start looking for examples.  [Forum members excepted of course.]

Did the great socialist Diane send her children to private education if so how does that equate to socialist beliefs.

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I liked Angela Raynor , thought she was leader material , until her outburst . She has let the working class down by going to stereotype its the last thing we need in this day and age . 

Starmer is also not leadership material , We need a strong articulate character but no  one seems to fit the bill.

The tories just breed them by sending the candidates to pubic schools where they are groomed to rule the plebs .

 

Edited October 3, 2021 by cuttsie

[lazarus 68]

2 hours ago, Anna B said:

Angela Rayner is just such a person. Do you want her as leader?

No I don’t like her either, it seems as soon as they gain their M.P. status they look down on the working class, the very people they represent, look at Diane Abbot, her episode on a journey drinking a can of beer, when challenged her reply was “ do you know who I am?”, they seem to forget who they actually are, they are our representatives in parliament but they soon forget the poor, the disabled, the pensioners .

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25 minutes ago, lazarus said:

No I don’t like her either, it seems as soon as they gain their M.P. status they look down on the working class, the very people they represent, look at Diane Abbot, her episode on a journey drinking a can of beer, when challenged her reply was “ do you know who I am?”, they seem to forget who they actually are, they are our representatives in parliament but they soon forget the poor, the disabled, the pensioners .

The expenses soon catch the out , Its Animal farm ever time .

[El Cid 216]

2 hours ago, cuttsie said:

I liked Angela Raynor , thought she was leader material , until her outburst . She has let the working class down by going to stereotype its the last thing we need in this day and age . 

Starmer is also not leadership material , We need a strong articulate character but no  one seems to fit the bill.

The tories just breed them by sending the candidates to pubic schools where they are groomed to rule the plebs .

 

What evidence do you have that public schools create good leaders? I have evidence that they create poor leaders, first example Boris Johnson!

[ECCOnoob 1,029]

19 minutes ago, El Cid said:

What evidence do you have that public schools create good leaders? I have evidence that they create poor leaders, first example Boris Johnson!

I don't know how you can use that as an example. Boris Johnson was elected leader by his party, was elected leader by the nation by comfortable majority. He is still leader as we speak now and based on the current polling there is not much sign of him going away any day soon.

 

He must be doing something right to get to that position. We get it - you don't like Johnson. But you need to pick a better examples try and prove your point.

[Mister M 1,622]

2 hours ago, lazarus said:

No I don’t like her either, it seems as soon as they gain their M.P. status they look down on the working class, the very people they represent, look at Diane Abbot, her episode on a journey drinking a can of beer, when challenged her reply was “ do you know who I am?”, they seem to forget who they actually are, they are our representatives in parliament but they soon forget the poor, the disabled, the pensioners .

I don't remember Diane Abbott coming back with the retort "Do you know who I am" after drinking a Mojito om a train. She did apologise after the incident though.

Diane Abbott ‘sincerely sorry’ after drinking mojito on London Overground train | The Independent | The Independent

I don't think Johnson ever apologised for making nasty homophobic comments though about "tank topped bum boys".

Edited October 3, 2021 by Mister M

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1 hour ago, El Cid said:

What evidence do you have that public schools create good leaders? I have evidence that they create poor leaders, first example Boris Johnson!

 

1 hour ago, El Cid said:

What evidence do you have that public schools create good leaders? I have evidence that they create poor leaders, first example Boris Johnson!

Read it again , where does it say that it creates good leaders .

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1 hour ago, ECCOnoob said:

I don't know how you can use that as an example. Boris Johnson was elected leader by his party, was elected leader by the nation by comfortable majority. He is still leader as we speak now and based on the current polling there is not much sign of him going away any day soon.

 

He must be doing something right to get to that position. We get it - you don't like Johnson. But you need to pick a better examples try and prove your point.

It’s just a matter of time…

 

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/boris-johnson-approval-rating