Rough And Ready Pub With Dancing/Club Wanted. 30s To 50s Age Group. Any Ideas ?

[horribleblob 213]

It was 1989 I was in there. All I remember of it was that the customers looked like tough foundry workers to me.

My partner was the only woman in there and I  recall a few raised eyebrows when she went to the bar to order a couple of pints and asked for hers to be put into a pint pot and not a straight glass.

A bit of a culture shock for us southerners.

[Double Corona 0]

Sincere thanks to those who have commented. There is quite a lot of useful information there.  I think that Padders has exactly understood the type of venue that I'm looking for. He's summed it up perfectly and is on my wavelength. I agree entirely that the online dating scene has decimated the traditional face to face,  packed,  fun filled, wild grotty venues, but I feel that some residual vestiges must be lurking somewhere, albeit on a reduced scale ? Surely it can't all be online now ? I think that it's a great shame that youngsters today won't experience the huge excitement and laugh a minute factor that a lot of us remember so fondly from rough and ready nights out in the 80s and, in my particular case, 90s. I want to live it again now, every Saturday if I can, just for a couple of years more, before I have to realistically accept that it's over forever and I'm too old. I know that I'll regret it if I let this final opportunity pass by. 

 

Are Penny Black and The Norfolk Arms purely static drinking locations, or do they have late Saturday night dancing as well ? That's pretty much the essential ingredient. I've had a Google for both, but there isn't much specific detail.

 

Deziner's suggestion of Bessemer looks very promising. Again; many thanks for that. It's a bit too flash and more civilised than I'd ideally want, but looking at the pictures online, at least it isn't full of teenagers/ early 20s. Unless anyone can think of a better option that is even more in tune with my original request, I think that Bessemer will be my starting point. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Padders 2,872]

16 minutes ago, horribleblob said:

 

A bit of a culture shock for us southerners.

I can imagine it must have been  HB.

Some of them could sup 12 pints a night, swearing, spitting, smoking, coughing, the occasional smelly trump, then after last orders, A jolly old fashioned punch up outside..

What a great way to spend your Saturday nights..

Oh, and by the way, the men were nearly as bad.

[HeHasRisen 3,405]

24 minutes ago, Double Corona said:

 

 

Are Penny Black and The Norfolk Arms purely static drinking locations, or do they have late Saturday night dancing as well ?  

 

 

 

 

 

The FB page of the Penny Black promises a "disco" every Friday and Saturday night. IMO you will get a much "rougher" crowd there than at the Bessemer.

Edited August 31, 2021 by HeHasRisen

[Rockers rule 673]

1 hour ago, Padders said:

Actually, never heard of that place, which is unusual for me, as I was a regular at all the dives in Sheffield.

My favourite one of course was the World famous B/C.

The Plumpers is on the Left, Albert on the right. the railway bridge is still recognisable.

59 minutes ago, horribleblob said:

It was 1989 I was in there. All I remember of it was that the customers looked like tough foundry workers to me.

My partner was the only woman in there and I  recall a few raised eyebrows when she went to the bar to order a couple of pints and asked for hers to be put into a pint pot and not a straight glass.

A bit of a culture shock for us southerners.

Don't tell anyone  i might have gotten it wrong  t'was the Albert with the pink baize pool table

& gay news on't bar.

Quick Whisky and out, Not Out, Out, just out 

 

 

[Padders 2,872]

40 minutes ago, Rockers rule said:

The Plumpers is on the Left, Albert on the right. the railway bridge is still recognisable.

Don't tell anyone  i might have gotten it wrong  t'was the Albert with the pink baize pool table

& gay news on't bar.

Quick Whisky and out, Not Out, Out, just out 

 

 

Ah, thats jogged my memory Rocker, do remember it now, and the Albert..

Never been in either.

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It looks like it's a direct choice between the Bessemer and the Penny Black.  I wonder if the age group in each is pretty much the same ? I'm keen to avoid the student/ early 20s crowd. Again, thanks for the input.  In reality, I'll probably try both and see what I think. 

[slh73 32]

Id have thought Maggie Mays would be exactly what youre after

 

http://www.maggiemayssheffield.com/

[crookesey 635]

Most of the old pubs don’t exist anymore, the ones that do don’t have the landlords/ladies or the customers that they did have, as they don’t exist anymore. I will go so far as to say that if this could be recreated I wouldn’t be comfortable with it, as the person that I was then doesn’t exist anymore.

 

I much prefer pubs that still exist and have moved on with times, and you know what, they still exist because they have moved on with the times. What I did prefer about the old pubs is that they were run by landlords/landladies, not some invisible manager, I will always believe that someone running his/her own business gives better service than an employed manager.

[pattricia 578]

17 hours ago, crookesey said:

Most of the old pubs don’t exist anymore, the ones that do don’t have the landlords/ladies or the customers that they did have, as they don’t exist anymore. I will go so far as to say that if this could be recreated I wouldn’t be comfortable with it, as the person that I was then doesn’t exist anymore.

 

I much prefer pubs that still exist and have moved on with times, and you know what, they still exist because they have moved on with the times. What I did prefer about the old pubs is that they were run by landlords/landladies, not some invisible manager, I will always believe that someone running his/her own business gives better service than an employed manager.

I absolutely agree with you. The landlady was always the boss, and if any customer was causing any trouble , then, just one solid stare from the landlady would make them behave. If not she would summon a couple of “ chuckers out” who would physically do just that ! 

[bassett one 452]

the old wagon and horses on the heeley green was ruff in its day,always a fight,lunchtime or nightime,i was once in charge of the lion/lamb eckington,i spent 2 weeks trouble free,comes to last day,couldnt believe it a fight 12 noon,just opened on a sat,lovely summers day,fighting outside ,smashed glasses,but it soon settled down,but you never know when trouble can start in a pub,but normally its when you least expect it,but great memorys,there where loads of rough watering halls back in the day,bet theres still plenty now.

[pattricia 578]

In the 50s one of the roughest pubs was The Magnet in Southey Green..My father worked in the steelworks during the day but on Saturdays he was the “ bookie” before betting shops were legal. He collected the bets on street corners , but handed them to Bookies Runners . This saved him being picked up by the police.