Our Planet Is On Fire

[cuttsie 1,089]

51 minutes ago, butlers said:

https://www.noaa.gov/news/its-official-july-2021-was-earths-hottest-month-on-record

Well according to some its all a load of bolony.

 

[trastrick 866]

You're close, Cuttsie!

 

More like a dollop of potted meat, served on Wedgewood China.

 

One hundredth of a degree above the July 2016 temperature. Really?

 

Anybody with half a brain who reads that report, the support claims and links, would get more than a few laughs.

 

But this dumbed down society will only hear the hype from the elite, concerned, alarmed, talking heads on your telly!

 

And they can rely on folks not to read the small print!

 

You gotta ACT NOW! BEFORE IT"S TOO LATE!

 

Give 'em the $trillions, they are asking for!

 

Don't be a DENIER!

 

Lol

 

 

Edited August 14, 2021 by trastrick

[retep 68]

Wonder if these were biting their fingernails down to the elbows,

 

THE HOT WEDNESDAY OF 1808

Farmers, and others engaged in outdoor pursuits, men of science, and others engaged in observations on meteorological phenomena, have much reason to doubt whether the reported temperatures of past years are worthy of reliance. In looking through the old journals and magazines, degrees of winter cold and summer heat are found recorded, which, to say the best of it, need to be received with much caution; seeing that the sources of fallacy were numerous. There was one particular Wednesday in 1808, for instance, which was marked by so high a temperature, as to obtain for itself the name of the 'Hot Wednesday;' there is no doubt the heat was great, even if its degree were overstated.

At Hayes, in Middlesex, two thermometers, the one made by Ramsden, and the other by Cary, were observed at noon, and were found to record 90° F. in the shade. Men of middle age at that time, called to mind the 'Hot Tuesday' of 1790, which, however, was several degrees below the temperature of this particular Wednesday. Remembering that the average heat, winter and summer, of the West Indies, is about 82°, it is not surprising that men fainted, and horses and other animals died under the pressure of a temperature so unusual in England as 8° above this amount. In the shade, at an open window looking into St. James's Park, a temperature of 94° was observed. In a shop-window, on the shady side of the Strand, a thermometer marked 101°; but this was under the influence of conducted and radiant warmth from surrounding objects.

At Gainsborough, in Lincolnshire, two thermometers, made by Nairne and Blunt respectively, hanging in the shade with a northern aspect, marked 94° at one o'clock on the day in question. In the corresponding month of 1825, observers were surprised to find a temperature of 85° marked in the quadrangle of the Royal Exchange at four o'clock in the 19th, 86½° at one o'clock on the same day, 87° at Paris, and 91° at Hull; but all these were below the indications noticed, or alleged to be noticed, in 1808.

It is now known, however, better than it was in those days, that numerous precautions are necessary to the obtainment of reliable observations on temperature. The height from the ground, the nature and state of the ground, the direction in reference to the points of the compass, the vicinity of other objects, the nature of those objects as heat-reflectors, the covered or uncovered state of the space overhead—all affect the degree to which the mercury in the tube of a thermometer will be expanded by heat: even if the graduation of the tube be reliable, which is seldom the case, except in high-priced instruments. On this account all the old newspaper statements on such matters must be received with caution, though there is no reason to doubt that the Hot Wednesday of 1808 was really a very formidable day.

July 14th

[Padders 2,850]

Matlock in Derbyshire had a devastating flood in 1960.

In 1965 they had an even worse flood.

In the last 56 yrs no floods.

[retep 68]

23 minutes ago, Padders said:

Matlock in Derbyshire had a devastating flood in 1960.

In 1965 they had an even worse flood.

In the last 56 yrs no floods.

Pictures show the extent of flooding in Matlock town centre.

https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/weather/pictures-show-extent-flooding-matlock-town-centre-3108340

[andyofborg 11]

1 hour ago, retep said:

Pictures show the extent of flooding in Matlock town centre.

https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/weather/pictures-show-extent-flooding-matlock-town-centre-3108340

except these pictures relate to january this year not as you claim in your post 1960 or 1965. 

 

you show youself to be untruthful. 

 

[Padders 2,850]

1 minute ago, andyofborg said:

except these pictures relate to january this year not as you claim in your post 1960 or 1965. 

 

you show youself to be untruthful. 

 

Compared to 1960 and 1965 that was minor flooding.

In Matlock they have a marker showing how high the water got, the whole town was under about 10ft of water.

[retep 68]

16 minutes ago, andyofborg said:

except these pictures relate to january this year not as you claim in your post 1960 or 1965. 

 

you show youself to be untruthful. 

 

I claimed nothing in my post just information, you show yourself to be thick enough not to grasp it,

here knock yourself out regular flooding,

https://www.andrewsgen.com/matlock/flood.htm

[altus 538]

2 hours ago, retep said:

Wonder if these were biting their fingernails down to the elbows,

I doubt it. Even the first and last paragraphs of the bit you quoted say how unreliable the figures are likely to be.

[altus 538]

28 minutes ago, Padders said:

Compared to 1960 and 1965 that was minor flooding.

In Matlock they have a marker showing how high the water got, the whole town was under about 10ft of water.

It still undermines your claim that "In the last 56 yrs no floods."

 

They removed a weir on the river in 1970 which has reduced the risk/extent of flooding since then. Don't make claims based on comparing apples and oranges, people will point it out and you'll either look foolish or disingenuous.

[El Cid 214]

39 minutes ago, Padders said:

Compared to 1960 and 1965 that was minor flooding.

In Matlock they have a marker showing how high the water got, the whole town was under about 10ft of water.

These things are called as weather or the local climate, although I do believe its quite posible that we have had more flooding and more flashfires.

Global temperatures have increased, rising temperatures causes ice to melt and the sea levels are rising; warmer air causes it to hold more moisture, which will OBVIOUSLY cause more precipitation(rain).

 

[Padders 2,850]

1 minute ago, altus said:

It still undermines your claim that "In the last 56 yrs no floods."

 

They removed a weir on the river in 1970 which has reduced the risk/extent of flooding since then. Don't make claims based on comparing apples and oranges, people will point it out and you'll either look foolish or disingenuous.

Get what you mean, maybe I should have reworded it.

"Not experienced anything like it since"