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Tram 105 collided with skip lorry at Bernard Road crossing no reports of injuries.

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10 minutes ago, bassett one said:

another tram less them for tramlines?

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Those tram drivers really don't want to work this evening do they. Pinging due to Covid and now tram crash! :hihi::hihi:

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People pull out in front of the tram like it's got the ability to swerve to avoid.

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Went to catch tram from middlewood an hour and a half after the accident and the dot matrix made no mention of any crash or disruption to the service. The clue was that the time of the next tram was 17 minutes, the second one  18 minutes both allegedly going to Meadowhall and the destination on the tram at the bay saying it was going to Cathedral. Asked the conductor and she told me that the tram was leaving in 3 minutes. 
 

once again just when you need information information on the dot matrix it is worse than useless. At least at middlewood we could ask the crew of the waiting tram.

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Yes, those dot matrix "customer information" displays at the tram stops rarely seem to be updated to advise people when there's a severe service disruption.   Not helpful.

 

Anybody know why that is?

 

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Information is really bad. Even hour after it happened I took one from attercliffe to meadowhall and there were 60 people waiting for a tram to town at meadowhall. They had not been told about the crash and trams stop woodbourne rd.

Even when I was waiting at attercliffe it took me 15 minutes before reading that small print on bottom of led info screen to figure out there was a problem and when it came I was only person on it.

 

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Got turned round from the scene involving a Bradwell Skips lorry shortly after the occurrence just after midday Friday . . . Missed the resulting chaos . . . However, after recording and speed scanning state TV's Look North and so-called Independent TV's puerile Calendar prog some 5 hours later, Hey Presto ! - ABSOLUTELY ZERO COVERAGE of an extremely serious and relevant LIGHT RAIL occurrence at a busy, light controlled city junction . . . This is a junction where there are NO PEDESTRIAN INDICATORS and road traffic frequently ignores (or gets confused with) the in-situ protocols . . . Let us hope that the Rail Accident Investigation Branch is able to prevail upon the relevant authorities to initiate the relevant SAFETY PROCEDURES at this very dangerous Light Rail / Road Traffic / Foot Traffic interface in order to obviate the likelihood of possible future fatalities . . . 

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2 hours ago, primemover70 said:

Got turned round from the scene involving a Bradwell Skips lorry shortly after the occurrence just after midday Friday . . . Missed the resulting chaos . . . However, after recording and speed scanning state TV's Look North and so-called Independent TV's puerile Calendar prog some 5 hours later, Hey Presto ! - ABSOLUTELY ZERO COVERAGE of an extremely serious and relevant LIGHT RAIL occurrence at a busy, light controlled city junction . . . This is a junction where there are NO PEDESTRIAN INDICATORS and road traffic frequently ignores (or gets confused with) the in-situ protocols . . . Let us hope that the Rail Accident Investigation Branch is able to prevail upon the relevant authorities to initiate the relevant SAFETY PROCEDURES at this very dangerous Light Rail / Road Traffic / Foot Traffic interface in order to obviate the likelihood of possible future fatalities . . . 

No bad injuries and Tramlines probably answers your concern for little publicity just another accident to the media.

 

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5 hours ago, primemover70 said:

Got turned round from the scene involving a Bradwell Skips lorry shortly after the occurrence just after midday Friday . . . Missed the resulting chaos . . . However, after recording and speed scanning state TV's Look North and so-called Independent TV's puerile Calendar prog some 5 hours later, Hey Presto ! - ABSOLUTELY ZERO COVERAGE of an extremely serious and relevant LIGHT RAIL occurrence at a busy, light controlled city junction . . . This is a junction where there are NO PEDESTRIAN INDICATORS and road traffic frequently ignores (or gets confused with) the in-situ protocols . . . Let us hope that the Rail Accident Investigation Branch is able to prevail upon the relevant authorities to initiate the relevant SAFETY PROCEDURES at this very dangerous Light Rail / Road Traffic / Foot Traffic interface in order to obviate the likelihood of possible future fatalities . . . 

You look all over the telly but did not notice there was already a topic started here about that crash. 

There are people who put their money on who will win. And there are people who gamble on other things.

Personally I had a medical black out behind the wheel ones and something similar happened you never know.

 

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18 hours ago, GleadlessLad said:

Yes, those dot matrix "customer information" displays at the tram stops rarely seem to be updated to advise people when there's a severe service disruption.   Not helpful.

 

Anybody know why that is?

 

yes I do . It is the fault of the PTE who did not know what they were doing (or in money saving mode) and bought what might work for the buses and hoped would work for the tram. They have demonstrated right from the start of the programme to introduce them a marked contempt for the public and they take the view that they are a benefit to the public because they are sometimes right. They have never understood that the starting point for an information system is that it should be designed for when thing go wrong with the service. Stagecoach simply did not want to rock the boat and so were happy for the dot matrix to be a work of fiction and was not their fault.

 

You may have noticed that sometimes the thing is in countdown mode (but even that is a joke) but others it shows an actual time for the next tram. When it is showing the actual time it means they have no idea of when or where the next tram is and are showing the timetabled time even if the tram is not running

 

the big problem is that you never know if the display is accurate and you can rely on it - a fact the PTE do not appreciate and on many occasions when the service has been suspended  you will see the displays showing the times of the non existent trams and IF you are lucky they may have added a note on the rolling message that the tram service is suspended but often even this is not done

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