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14 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

The CDC paper he referenced says they did not see any asymptomatic spread (which was not presymptomatic).

It was from a cluster of 59 cases. If I read it correctly. He’s not read it at all, as he freely admits. So it’s just a chunk of confirmation bias.

 

The Lancet and The BMJ believe that asymptomatic transmission is responsible for roughly 20% of cases.

 

Viruses have transmitted asymptomatically for as long as we’ve known about viruses.

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2 minutes ago, sibon said:

It was from a cluster of 59 cases. If I read it correctly.

 

The Lancet and The BMJ believe that asymptomatic transmission is responsible for roughly 20% of cases.

 

Viruses have transmitted asymptomatically for as long as we’ve known about viruses.

All very reasonable points.

 

Except I want to insist that asymptomatic transmission includes presymptomatic in common usage. In technical discussions they can define it how they want.

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10 hours ago, The_DADDY said:

Government propaganda spewed out by mainstream media. So damn predictable and absolutely disgusting scaring people like this... 

You should pay attention to Dr Yeadon instead of the MSM fear mongering parasites. 

Of course it is.  The fact that it describes what I'm seeing day to day on a lesser scale has nothing to do with it. 

10 hours ago, The_DADDY said:

Government propaganda spewed out by mainstream media. So damn predictable and absolutely disgusting scaring people like this... 

You should pay attention to Dr Yeadon instead of the MSM fear mongering parasites. 

Of course it is.  The fact that it describes what I'm seeing day to day on a lesser scale has nothing to do with it. 

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9 hours ago, Padders said:

75 pages of Discussing Masks, and I'm still no wiser...

Can someone please clarify, do I wear a mask, or not.

This made me laugh @Padders

 

I've removed some of the choice comments last night, can we keep it civil on this discussing masks thread please! 

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cant wait for the big public enquiry that is surely coming in the next few years when i predict the wearing of masks will be shown to be inappropriate and totally unnecessary do nothing to protect the wearer or anyone around them. except for in hospitals and close face to face procedures.

the vast majority are probably using the same mask they have had for the past year ewwww! not many would go to the expense of the N95 masks which actually do filter out some virus and even those should be changed every 4 hours.

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I would like to make a small contribution to this excellent thread...

 

When buying a mask, surely they should have a leaflet attached to them explaining the do's and dont's.

I've just had a nasty experience at ASDA.

When arriving at their car park, I thought I don't need my mask, but just in case I put one in my left hand pocket..

In my right hand I was carrying my shopping bag...

As I walked through the car park, I noticed everyone was still wearing a mask, so not wanting to be different, I reached for my mask with my left hand, and, still walking, managed to hook it over my left ear, and then over my right ear...

Unfortunately, while still walking, I managed to pull it over both my eyes, this resulted in me stumbling into a badly parked Ford Mondeo, and falling over..

Apart from a few bruise's I was Ok.

BUT, what if I had stumbled into an oncoming car, this could have proved fatal..

Mask's should come with a government health warning, they can be hazardous.

Beware, and stay safe...

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32 minutes ago, Padders said:

I would like to make a small contribution to this excellent thread...

 

When buying a mask, surely they should have a leaflet attached to them explaining the do's and dont's.

I've just had a nasty experience at ASDA.

When arriving at their car park, I thought I don't need my mask, but just in case I put one in my left hand pocket..

In my right hand I was carrying my shopping bag...

As I walked through the car park, I noticed everyone was still wearing a mask, so not wanting to be different, I reached for my mask with my left hand, and, still walking, managed to hook it over my left ear, and then over my right ear...

Unfortunately, while still walking, I managed to pull it over both my eyes, this resulted in me stumbling into a badly parked Ford Mondeo, and falling over..

Apart from a few bruise's I was Ok.

BUT, what if I had stumbled into an oncoming car, this could have proved fatal..

Mask's should come with a government health warning, they can be hazardous.

Beware, and stay safe...

😂😂😂🤣

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2 hours ago, ab6262 said:

cant wait for the big public enquiry that is surely coming in the next few years when i predict the wearing of masks will be shown to be inappropriate and totally unnecessary do nothing to protect the wearer or anyone around them. except for in hospitals and close face to face procedures.

the vast majority are probably using the same mask they have had for the past year ewwww! not many would go to the expense of the N95 masks which actually do filter out some virus and even those should be changed every 4 hours.

100% agree 👏

I often try to educate people about how frequently they should change their mask and the majority of the time they are grateful for the information. It's shocking though that usually I am the first person to tell them they should change them regularly. 

2 hours ago, Padders said:

I would like to make a small contribution to this excellent thread...

 

When buying a mask, surely they should have a leaflet attached to them explaining the do's and dont's.

I've just had a nasty experience at ASDA.

When arriving at their car park, I thought I don't need my mask, but just in case I put one in my left hand pocket..

In my right hand I was carrying my shopping bag...

As I walked through the car park, I noticed everyone was still wearing a mask, so not wanting to be different, I reached for my mask with my left hand, and, still walking, managed to hook it over my left ear, and then over my right ear...

Unfortunately, while still walking, I managed to pull it over both my eyes, this resulted in me stumbling into a badly parked Ford Mondeo, and falling over..

Apart from a few bruise's I was Ok.

BUT, what if I had stumbled into an oncoming car, this could have proved fatal..

Mask's should come with a government health warning, they can be hazardous.

Beware, and stay safe...

😂😂😂

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