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6 minutes ago, Longcol said:

OK - we'll just use pre-symptomatic in future to describe people with the virus not displaying symptoms.

No. I am not having top>>>> redefine the language for me.

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Just now, top4718 said:

No because its not the same thing at all.

You've lost me completely.

 

Do pre-symptomatic people have the virus, don't have symptoms and can pass on the virus?

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2 minutes ago, top4718 said:

Why are masks not working in South Korea where they are strictly adhered to?

They are working in South Korea.

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2 minutes ago, Longcol said:

You've lost me completely.

 

Do pre-symptomatic people have the virus, don't have symptoms and can pass on the virus?

Your clutching at straws mi old, give up and just be a sport and admit all the abuse I received was unjust, you'll feel much better about yourself.

2 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

 

They are working in South Korea.

So why are cases rising? South Korea's cases have doubled in a month from June - July.

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8 minutes ago, top4718 said:
9 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

 

They are working in South Korea.

So why are cases rising?

The point about masks is to cut transmission. No claim has been made that they eliminate transmission.

 

Presumably South Korea is now encountering the delta variant or ... or I don't know.

 

South Korea has a death rate 1/50 of ours. They are a success story.

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Just now, Carbuncle said:

The point about masks is to cut transmission. No claim has been made that they eliminate transmission.

 

Presumably South Korea is now encountering the delta variant or ... or I don't know

So why have cases in the US with no masks for months stayed stable whilst strictly masked SK have risen.

 

Are you saying the masks don't work against the Delta variant but at the same time decrying people for not wearing them?

 

This thread has taken an interesting turn 😀

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12 minutes ago, top4718 said:

Your clutching at straws mi old, give up and just be a sport and admit all the abuse I received was unjust, you'll feel much better about yourself.

 

So how do we prevent pre-symptomatic transmission? (which must never be called asymptomatic again - even though on SF it's always meant people with the virus who don't display symptoms).

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12 minutes ago, top4718 said:

No because its not the same thing at all.

Why do you not believe that asymptomism is real?

 

Do you have anything to back up your claim?

 

Not a YouTube though. Something proper

1 minute ago, Longcol said:

So how do we prevent pre-symptomatic transmission? (which must never be called asymptomatic again).

It should be, because asymptomism is very much a real thing.

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Just now, Longcol said:

So how do we prevent pre-symptomatic transmission? (which must never be called asymptomatic again).

Asymptomatic people develop no symptoms at all, pre-symptomatic develop symptoms after 4 days (or so) the track and trace app (which doesn't really work due to misuse) was put in place to combat this, interestingly there was never a feature on the £38billion app for asymptomatic cases (because they are so rare).

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3 minutes ago, top4718 said:

So why have cases in the US with no masks for months stayed stable whilst strictly masked SK have risen.

 

Are you saying the masks don't work against the Delta variant but at the same time decrying people for not wearing them?

 

This thread has taken an interesting turn 😀

Why do you lie?

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/19/us-coronavirus-cases-pandemic-vaccines-biden

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2 minutes ago, top4718 said:

So why have cases in the US with no masks for months stayed stable whilst strictly masked SK have risen.

 

Are you saying the masks don't work against the Delta variant but at the same time decrying people for not wearing them?

 

This thread has taken an interesting turn 😀

There are many differences between SK and the US. The US has a lot of naturally acquired immunity and a lot of vaccine acquired immunity which SK thus far lack. And by the way the US has more cases per capita than SK and the daily case rates are rising there too.

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2 minutes ago, sibon said:

Why do you not believe that asymptomism is real?

 

Do you have anything to back up your claim?

 

Not a YouTube though. Something proper

It should be, because asymptomism is very much a real thing.

It is real its just 0.3%  responsible for the drive of transmission, not even worth mentioning, your Guardian led you up the garden path on this one, your totally wrong.

1 minute ago, Carbuncle said:

There are many differences between SK and the US. The US has a lot of naturally acquired immunity and a lot of vaccine acquired immunity which SK thus far lack. And by the way the US has more cases per capita than SK and the daily case rates are rising there too.

The only way you build up natural immunity is being exposed to the virus, your vehemently against that as you advocate the use of masks etc. SK has 70% vaccine status, quite a high percentage. SK has been at the strictest level of lockdown for weeks, the US has lifted all restrictions in all but a very few states.

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