butlers   261 #61 Posted June 2, 2021 There were no options but having the restrictions in place. Despite having the highest " excess deaths" in 100 years you still think this is a trivial virus .  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #62 Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, butlers said: There were no options but having the restrictions in place. Despite having the highest " excess deaths" in 100 years you still think this is a trivial virus .  The excess deaths is widely debateable, I've seen stats saying there is and others saying there isn't.  When a decision was made to start including people who died with rather than of Covid then it makes any statistics worthless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ab6262   202 #63 Posted June 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, butlers said: There were no options but having the restrictions in place. Despite having the highest " excess deaths" in 100 years you still think this is a trivial virus .  POPPYCOCK, MOST DEATHS WERE OR WOULD HAVE BEEN FLU DEATHS. search for flu deaths in the past 12 months?????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   261 #64 Posted June 2, 2021 Just not so but there's no hope of convincing you of that.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718 Â Â 838 #65 Posted June 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, butlers said: Just not so but there's no hope of convincing you of that. Â If the "pandemic" was as bad as indicated we wouldn't need charts and graphs and statistics along with blanket MSM doom mongering - we'd know!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ab6262   202 #66 Posted June 2, 2021 40 minutes ago, butlers said: Just not so but there's no hope of convincing you of that.  tel me then my father died last june in a care home from old age and organ failure, his death cert said no1 cause of death was covid??? he had never had a test, when i queried it doc said because we cant do autopsies so anyone untested that dies is automatically included in the figures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #67 Posted June 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, ab6262 said: tel me then my father died last june in a care home from old age and organ failure, his death cert said no1 cause of death was covid??? he had never had a test, when i queried it doc said because we cant do autopsies so anyone untested that dies is automatically included in the figures. I've worked all the way through from last March barring a few weeks and I can honestly say that if it wasn't for the media I wouldn't even know a virus exists, that isn't a pandemic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ   2,035 #68 Posted June 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, ab6262 said: tel me then my father died last june in a care home from old age and organ failure, his death cert said no1 cause of death was covid??? he had never had a test, when i queried it doc said because we cant do autopsies so anyone untested that dies is automatically included in the figures. Exactly, one of the reasons the statistics should be read with a great deal of caution - there are others, but that is/was a major concern of mine from the start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   261 #69 Posted June 2, 2021 In a bad flu year there's 25,000 deaths. No one in my social circle has had " flu" this year. Yet we have 130,000 people who have died with covid listed as one of the contributing factors. Covid symptoms are significantly different to flu,how do you square that.    Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #70 Posted June 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, butlers said: In a bad flu year there's 25,000 deaths. No one in my social circle has had " flu" this year. Yet we have 130,000 people who have died with covid listed as one of the contributing factors. Covid symptoms are significantly different to flu,how do you square that.    The PCR tests used for detecting Covid are not accurate enough to determine between Covid and the Flu, they give similar viruses a positive test. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dave_the_m   61 #71 Posted June 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, top4718 said: The PCR tests used for detecting Covid are not accurate enough to determine between Covid and the Flu, they give similar viruses a positive test. This is simply not true. Covid and Flu viruses aren't from the same family of viruses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718 Â Â 838 #72 Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, dave_the_m said: This is simply not true. Covid and Flu viruses aren't from the same family of viruses. The PCR test is still inaccurate, do you really think the flu has just gone away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...