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1 minute ago, RollingJ said:

Takes one to know one. 🤣

Indeed, but my fantasies don't bring about scores of needless deaths and the wrecking of the economies of countless countries. 

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See the thing is ,if the good Prof was so bad  why would various governments tarnish their reputations by using him?

That doesn't seem rational.

 

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Just now, butlers said:

See the thing is ,if the good Prof was so bad  why would various governments tarnish their reputations by using him?

That doesn't seem rational.

 

At last, a pearl of wisdom... it certainly DOESN'T seem rational.  Can you explain it?

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1 minute ago, Yosemite Sam said:

Indeed, but my fantasies don't bring about scores of needless deaths and the wrecking of the economies of countless countries. 

OK - so explain to me exactly what you are trying to say. CV19/Covid/whatever you want to call it is real, and world-wide, so who or what is causing these 'needless deaths'?

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This is going to be good

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2 hours ago, RollingJ said:

OK - so explain to me exactly what you are trying to say. CV19/Covid/whatever you want to call it is real, and world-wide, so who or what is causing these 'needless deaths'?

Frankly, I can't believe that (presumably!) educated people haven't discovered this for themselves, but I suppose if your sole source of information is the bought-and-paid-for lying mainstream media, the chances are you'll remain in the dark... possibly forever.

 

I'll quote a single example - but one which was replicated in countries all over the world (you can check it out for yourself). In March 2020, Professor Legover made his doomsday prophecy of half a million dead, which scared Hancock sh**less, so he turfed 25,000 elderly patients out of their hospital beds and into the care homes in readiness for Legover's  torrent of dying COVID patients (which we're still waiting for). Moreover, in order to "Save the NHS," our esteemed Health Minister gave carte blanche to GPs to withhold medical treatment to all residents in care homes and serve them all with "Do Not Resuscitate" orders without the knowledge and permission of their loved ones, who were to be denied access. This criminal action resulted in over 18,500 care home patients dying needlessly, alone and without medical care. Who says so? Well, not me... but none other than Amnesty International in its aptly-titled report "As If Expendable," which you can read for yourself here: https://www.amnesty.org.uk/files/2020-10/Care Homes Report.pdf. If you can't be bothered to read it all, it concludes "UK government decisions and failures resulted in violations of the human rights of people living in care homes, notably the right to life, to health and to non-discrimination". 

 

Of course you won't hear any of this on the lying paid-propagandist BBC channels. If you're seriously concerned about establishing truth as opposed to mendacious propaganda, chuck out your TV and stop buying trashy newspapers; they're all on the payroll of Big Pharma who get their funding from Gates, Soros and Rothschild, which in turn ally themselves with Google, Facebook, Amazon and the other Silicon Valley cowboys. Even Whitty was in 2012 the beneficiary of a $40 million "grant" from Bill and Melinda, and Vallance has a vast shareholding in GSK. If ever there were two men with a better excuse for jabbing the whole world and keeping us locked down forever, I can't imagine what that would be.

 

If you think all this is the work of hapless, clueless Westminster politicians, you need to get a life.

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So this 500,000 you keep mentioning, how quickly were they meant to die ,that might have made for urgent actions

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4 hours ago, butlers said:

See the thing is ,if the good Prof was so bad  why would various governments tarnish their reputations by using him?

That doesn't seem rational.

 

Neil Ferguson’s research claimed that up to 150,000 people were at risk of death resulting from the 2001 outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease. The resulting mass culling claimed eleven million sheep and cattle, decimating the UK farming industry. There were actually fewer than 200 deaths.

 

A year later he predicted that up to 50,000 people would die from mad cow disease. There were actually just 177 deaths. In 2005, he predicted that up to 150 million people could die from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease. In 2009, his advice prompted the government’s “reasonable worst-case scenario” that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the event, the total British deaths were 457.

 

In March 2020, his model of the COVID-19 disease (which later turned out to be based on a 13-year-old computer programme and nothing to do with COVID) prompted his half-million deaths nonsense. Other scientists were prevented from checking his results by his refusal to release his original code. He made heavy revisions to his original code which he only released after a six-week delay.

 

You're right - it doesn't seem rational. The man is clearly a fraud, so why would anyone take any notice of this charlatan? It’s scandalous, but he’s still interviewed regularly by the completely idiotic BBC. Could you make any logical argument for listening to a single word he has to say?

 

 

4 minutes ago, butlers said:

So this 500,000 you keep mentioning, how quickly were they meant to die ,that might have made for urgent actions

Don't know. Ask the bloke who made the prediction.

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So this 150,000 deaths from Foot and mouth glad we avoided that ,maybe his advice worked!

 

By the way ,can you send an accredition for that claim?

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6 minutes ago, butlers said:

So this 150,000 deaths from Foot and mouth glad we avoided that ,maybe his advice worked!

 

By the way ,can you send an accredition for that claim?

On 16 April 2020, an article in The Spectator entitled "Six questions that Neil Ferguson Should Be Asked" said the following: "It has been claimed by experts such as Michael Thrusfield, professor of veterinary epidemiology at Edinburgh University, that Ferguson’s modelling on foot and mouth was ‘severely flawed’ and made a ‘serious error’ by ‘ignoring the species composition of farms,’ and the fact that the disease spread faster between different species. Does Ferguson acknowledge that his modelling in 2001 was flawed and if so, has he taken steps to avoid future mistakes?"

 

Bet he doesn't!

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So that Spectator article does not say what you say it does.

There is no mention of 150,000 deaths from Foot and mouth.

Not even a mention of a single death.

You made the claim up, unless you can give us a source will just assume it's there to back your " narrative"

 

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