Alextopman   1,423 #37 Posted May 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, sibon said: But the money is borrowed, and spent. And secured against parachute payments.  Whatever colour your spectacles are, mortgaging your ground, or mortgaging your future income are both things that should set alarm bells ringing.  I’m hoping that Chansiri has the funds to clear our loan, but I’m not sure that he has. If he can’t, we are in big trouble.  I’d guess that your owner is either going to do the same, or has a fire sale planned.  Whichever way you look at it, it’s not nice. It's what most clubs do Man Utd have a £500m loan against their ground just Google it and stop dramatising something you hope for. As said before the lenders will have taken into consideration the possibility of relegation where we were concerned so no worries. I'm only quoting the top football financial expert on these matters by the way, Google it and put your worries to bed. As for your lot the alarm bells have already been ringing loud and clear, Chanser wants his £2.5m a year before the players get a penny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #38 Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Alextopman said: The money was borrowed from the lenders in full knowledge relegation was a possibility and that was taken into consideration when the ability to keep up payments were looked at, they'd be very silly not to have done that don't you think?. Google it. The money was borrowed in 2019 when your fans were singing "we're going to Napoli" expecting a tilt at Europe, if you expected relegation from that vantage point can I have your lottery numbers for this weekend 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alextopman   1,423 #39 Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, top4718 said: The money was borrowed in 2019 when your fans were singing "we're going to Napoli" expecting a tilt at Europe, if you expected relegation from that vantage point can I have your lottery numbers for this weekend 🤣 Who said United expected relegation?. Show me where I said that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #40 Posted May 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Alextopman said: Who said United expected relegation?. Show me where I said that. "Full knowledge relegation was a possibility" - your words.  The loan was secured against payments from the Premier League inc TV rights money - a bit difficult when you planned for not being in it.  Your arguments are weaker than a house of cards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alextopman   1,423 #41 Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, top4718 said: "Full knowledge relegation was a possibility" - your words.  The loan was secured against payments from the Premier League inc TV rights money - a bit difficult when you planned for not being in it.  Your arguments are weaker than a house of cards. Told you before I don't argue, I go on the facts and if you had the savvy to look them up you wouldn't be repeated the same crap all the time.... Again I ask your where did I say we expected relegation?. Possi ilty and expect are two entirely different things but don't let that get in the way of vivid imagination. Edited May 18, 2021 by Alextopman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #42 Posted May 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alextopman said: Told you before I don't argue, I go on the facts and if you had the savvy to look them up you wouldn't be repeated the same crap all the time.... Again I ask your where did I say we expected relegation?. Possi ilty and expect are two entirely different things but don't let that get in the way of vivid imagination. Either way you don't borrow money against future Premier League money if you don't expect to have it. 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alextopman   1,423 #43 Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, top4718 said: Either way you don't borrow money against future Premier League money if you don't expect to have it. 🤣 There you go again imagining things, the only person saying they expected anything is you. Sensible people take into account all possibilities before committing to things. See the difference? Your replies a becoming more and more desperate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718 Â Â 838 #44 Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Alextopman said: There you go again imagining things, the only person saying they expected anything is you. Sensible people take into account all possibilities before committing to things. See the difference? Your replies a becoming more and more desperate. Your excuses are. Â This article explains it better: Â https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/11/premier-league-clubs-australian-bank-macquarie-loans-tv-earnings Edited May 18, 2021 by top4718 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
monzaman   324 #45 Posted May 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, sibon said: But the money is borrowed, and spent. And secured against parachute payments.  Whatever colour your spectacles are, mortgaging your ground, or mortgaging your future income are both things that should set alarm bells ringing.  I’m hoping that Chansiri has the funds to clear our loan, but I’m not sure that he has. If he can’t, we are in big trouble.  I’d guess that your owner is either going to do the same, or has a fire sale planned.  Whichever way you look at it, it’s not nice. Take it onto the other thread NOT ON HERE!!!!!!!!!! 3 minutes ago, top4718 said: Your excuses are.  This article explains it better:  https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/11/premier-league-clubs-australian-bank-macquarie-loans-tv-earnings THE OTHER THREAD NOT ON HERE!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alextopman   1,423 #46 Posted May 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, top4718 said: Your excuses are.  This article explains it better:  https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/11/premier-league-clubs-australian-bank-macquarie-loans-tv-earnings See nothing there telling us United are in financial trouble. Did Chancer expect to finish below Wycombe is that why he wouldn't pay the wages?. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718 Â Â 838 #47 Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, Alextopman said: See nothing there telling us United are in financial trouble. Did Chancer expect to finish below Wycombe is that why he wouldn't pay the wages?. It says the McQuarrie group specialise in lending money to clubs against future Premier League to TV rights, you have the debt but not the TV rights. Â No I think a global pandemic and no fan income for 14 months did that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alextopman   1,423 #48 Posted May 18, 2021 1 minute ago, top4718 said: It says the McQuarrie group specialise in lending money to clubs against future Premier League to TV rights, you have the debt but not the TV rights.  No I think a global pandemic and no fan income for 14 months did that. Does it say the length of the loan, the size of the loan, the repayment terms. Nope not one word of Sheffield United being in financial trouble, your lot on the other hand it's been all over the news but you don't like us mentioning them it upsets you and you say it's a dig... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...