Sheffield Referendum Tomorrow

[drolnhoj 15]

11 minutes ago, nightrider said:

Our local labour councillor has already informed the locals via facebook that the voters didn't understand what they were voting for and therefore this will be a disaster!

Maybe that is one of the problems Labour have, thinking that the voters don't understand what they want. Just a thought! 

[Jeffrey Shaw 90]

16 minutes ago, nightrider said:

Our local labour councillor has already informed the locals via facebook that the voters didn't understand what they were voting for and therefore this will be a disaster!

Isn't that what Labour always says, though? I recall the mantra from its explanation as to why it lost the last General Election and also the EU Referendum- that voters just didn't understand. How condescending.

3 hours ago, dave_the_m said:

The referendum has chosen the committee system by 2/3 to 1/3.

Yes. The BBC news item appeared quite late, after a lot of prodding.

See https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-57057821

[horribleblob 212]

27 minutes ago, nightrider said:

Our local labour councillor has already informed the locals via facebook that the voters didn't understand what they were voting for and therefore this will be a disaster!

According to the BBC (see link in post  #134 above) :

 

'Labour Group leader Terry Fox congratulated campaigners on their achievement before saying he wanted to use the result "as a positive opportunity to improve how the council works".'

[Delbow 692]

8 minutes ago, Jeffrey Shaw said:

Isn't that what Labour always says, though? I recall the mantra from its explanation as to why it lost the last General Election and also the EU Referendum- that voters just didn't understand. How condescending.

 

As condescending as Tories sneering at people in places like Hartlepool for years and saying "you could put a red rosette on a donkey and they'd vote for it" (snigger at the northern proles)?

 

I wonder how many times the people of Hartlepool have to vote Tory for some old Tories to say "hehe, you could put a blue rosette on a donkey and they'd vote for it" (snigger at the northern proles)

[altus 538]

18 minutes ago, Jeffrey Shaw said:

Isn't that what Labour always says, though? I recall the mantra from its explanation as to why it lost the last General Election and also the EU Referendum- that voters just didn't understand. How condescending.

Yes. The BBC news item appeared quite late, after a lot of prodding.

See https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-57057821

Their 'Latest Updates' section did first mention it at 11:44 with more detail following at 12:16 and they did mention it on the TV regional lunchtime news so it's not like they were ignoring it. Given there's a mention of the new leader of the Sheffield Labour Group 5 minutes before the referendum result article was published and there's a quote from him in the latter it's possible they were waiting to get quotes from the main parties concerned before publishing it.

[nightrider 13]

2 hours ago, horribleblob said:

According to the BBC (see link in post  #134 above) :

 

'Labour Group leader Terry Fox congratulated campaigners on their achievement before saying he wanted to use the result "as a positive opportunity to improve how the council works".'

So? Doesn’t negate what my councillor said.

[creweblade 10]

The council was already a disaster so let's hope things improve

[Ms Macbeth 73]

On 10/05/2021 at 20:55, creweblade said:

The council was already a disaster so let's hope things improve

What did they get wrong that you expect to improve now there is NOC? 

 

So many people complain, but don't say why.   

[Anna B 1,401]

On 11/05/2021 at 23:13, Ms Macbeth said:

What did they get wrong that you expect to improve now there is NOC? 

 

So many people complain, but don't say why.   

10 people out of 84 deciding everything can't be right. The complacency 

[Longcol 597]

1 hour ago, Anna B said:

10 people out of 84 deciding everything can't be right. The complacency 

At Westminster, how many MP's are in the cabinet out of six hundred and odd MP's.

[dave_the_m 61]

57 minutes ago, Longcol said:

At Westminster, how many MP's are in the cabinet out of six hundred and odd MP's.

But in Westminster there are select committies, which include members from all major parties, who scrutinise draft legislation and hold the government and cabinet ministers to account.

[Longcol 597]

On 13/05/2021 at 23:29, dave_the_m said:

But in Westminster there are select committies, which include members from all major parties, who scrutinise draft legislation and hold the government and cabinet ministers to account.

When Boris (or any other PM) has a majority of 80 - in your dreams.............................