RollingJ Â Â 2,003 #25 Posted April 22, 2021 Mr. Bakers final line reads: 'Patchy mobile signals mean it may be some time before full-fibre broadband is rolled out to all homes, Mr Baker said.' Just tell me that makes sense, and I'll shut up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   538 #26 Posted April 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, RollingJ said: Mr. Bakers final line reads: 'Patchy mobile signals mean it may be some time before full-fibre broadband is rolled out to all homes, Mr Baker said.' Just tell me that makes sense, and I'll shut up. When put with the line above it "But some parts of the country, particularly in rural areas, a landline remains essential for many." the context makes it clear that Baker's comment is related to rural areas. Anybody living in a rural area will know the issues surrounding rural access to both mobile phones and broadband and Baker's comment will make sense to them. Anybody living in a built up area with both good mobile and broadband access who hasn't either seen a news report on poor rural access or the empathy/imagination to realise everyone might not be so fortunate as them may have trouble with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ   2,003 #27 Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, altus said: When put with the line above it "But some parts of the country, particularly in rural areas, a landline remains essential for many." the context makes it clear that Baker's comment is related to rural areas. Anybody living in a rural area will know the issues surrounding rural access to both mobile phones and broadband and Baker's comment will make sense to them. Anybody living in a built up area with both good mobile and broadband access who hasn't either seen a news report on poor rural access or the empathy/imagination to realise everyone might not be so fortunate as them may have trouble with it. Sorry, but that line that I am referring to specifically says - and I quote: 'Patchy mobile signals mean it may be some time before full-fibre broadband is rolled out to all homes, Mr Baker said',. specifically equates patchy mobile signals with full-fibre, as though they are incompatible - they aren't.     Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ECCOnoob   1,022 #28 Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RollingJ said: Sorry, but that line that I am referring to specifically says - and I quote: 'Patchy mobile signals mean it may be some time before full-fibre broadband is rolled out to all homes, Mr Baker said',. specifically equates patchy mobile signals with full-fibre, as though they are incompatible - they aren't. Go and ask Mr Barker.  3 pages on I'm still perplexed why your entire thread seems to be a massive criticism of the BBCs integrity when all they have done is quoted a direct coment from an interviewee.   Also, whilst I am not a telecommunications engineer, you don't seem to give much reasons as to why this Mr Barker (if of course we all have complete disclosure of the full context of the question and answer exchange), is so monumentally wrong in what he says. Edited April 22, 2021 by ECCOnoob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ   2,003 #29 Posted April 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: Go and ask Mr Baker.  3 pages on I'm still perplexed why your entire thread seems to be a massive criticism of the BBCs integrity when all they have done is quoted a direct coment from an interviewee.   Also, whilst I am not a telecommunications engineer, you don't seem to give much reasons as to why this Mr Baker (if of course we all have complete disclosure of the full context of the question and answer exchange), is so monumentally wrong in what he says. You have got me wrong there - I don't particularly trust any news source, and this is not about the BBC per se - although if this is an edited version of Mr. Bakers interview I question the editors knowledge or ability. I too am not a telecoms engineer, but I do know enough to understand that the two technologies do not in any way rely upon each other - one uses airwaves, the other fibre cables. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY   3,461 #30 Posted April 22, 2021 Do I Trust the news? Absolutely not. Agenda driven fear porn for the most part.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   538 #31 Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, RollingJ said: Sorry, but that line that I am referring to specifically says - and I quote: 'Patchy mobile signals mean it may be some time before full-fibre broadband is rolled out to all homes, Mr Baker said',. specifically equates patchy mobile signals with full-fibre, as though they are incompatible - they aren't. That's just your interpretation of it. Nobody else seems to share your view - you might want to consider why that might be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ   2,003 #32 Posted April 22, 2021 1 minute ago, altus said: That's just your interpretation of it. Nobody else seems to share your view - you might want to consider why that might be. Strange - it must be a Sheffield thing, because I posted the same query on another forum, and saw it already posted on another one I visit, and my point was accepted on both. But there again, both of these other forums are used by individuals who actually understand technology. 11 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: Do I Trust the news? Absolutely not. Agenda driven fear porn for the most part.  I wouldn't call it porn (well, not all of it 🤪), but agenda driven, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   538 #33 Posted April 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, RollingJ said: Strange - it must be a Sheffield thing, because I posted the same query on another forum, and saw it already posted on another one I visit, and my point was accepted on both. But there again, both of these other forums are used by individuals who actually understand technology. But apparently not the impacts of the prioritisation of government subsidies.  You'll find plenty of people on here do understand the technology. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   259 #34 Posted April 22, 2021 That article certainly is not the finest price of journalism need a divining rod to make out what it's point likely is.  Auntie Beeb is a golden standard news resource,carries a lot of clout world world. After the Berlin Wall came down ,when interviewed most of the leaders of the campaigns for freedom praised the been for letting have a understanding of the free world via the World Service.    Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY   3,461 #35 Posted April 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, RollingJ said:  I wouldn't call it porn (well, not all of it 🤪), but agenda driven, yes. 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   259 #36 Posted April 22, 2021 Reuters news agency did a survey last year and BBC. News was scored higher by Americans than any of the US national broadcasters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...