butlers   259 #73 Posted April 21, 2021 It was muder in the third degree. He might only get 12years.  Knowing the ludicrous sentencing in US presumably if it was premeditated he might have got Life plus 20/30 extra for aggravating cause. Be interesting what the sentence ends up being. Doubtless an appeal will be made Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad   3,938 #74 Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Resident said: I guess we'll just ignore the fact that GF was shouting this long before he was restrained on the floor and the fact that someone who can't breath could not possibly continually shout for that long. At most it was unlawful killing by negligence.   Yes . He was saying he could not breathe as they tried to put him in the car . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delbow   686 #75 Posted April 21, 2021 And the myotonic seizure he had through lack of oxygen was just him trying to run away, no doubt. You know what 'they' are like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #76 Posted April 21, 2021 4 hours ago, butlers said: I would argue the most dangerous precedent would be officers are above the law.  And remember that officer was happy to do that in full view of the public, what if there was no film.He would nigh on certain been aquitted   3 hours ago, The_DADDY said: But he wasn't acquitted and there was film. Yes, luckily there was footage, which is the only reason this went to court. Usually, of course, there is no footage, so safe to assume that in the US many black people have/are/will be similarly killed by police and it won't go to court. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   259 #77 Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) I don't get the point of saying  Floyd George was saying could not breathe as they got him out of the car..what does this prove exactly ? The police response was to put a choke hold on him while restrained until he was unresponsive and continue for minutes more until he was dead  Edited April 21, 2021 by butlers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad   3,938 #78 Posted April 21, 2021 Not a choke hold  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   259 #79 Posted April 21, 2021 Turns out Minneapolis police have rendered 66 people unconscious in last few years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad   3,938 #80 Posted April 21, 2021 21 hours ago, Delbow said: Yes, 2nd and 3rd degree murder, and manslaughter.  Why do you think that? I've been following the trial and, although it's obviously not the same as being there and hearing all the evidence, the evidence from the prosecution witnesses seemed pretty compelling, while the defence arguments were sometimes bizarre in their 'whataboutery' Out of interest where/ how have you been following the trial ? I have been following some of it on one of the  most biased ,one sided station Ive seen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delbow   686 #81 Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, hackey lad said: Out of interest where/ how have you been following the trial ? I have been following some of it on one of the  most biased ,one sided station Ive seen The Guardian (not my favourite news outlet tbh) summarised the prosecution and defence arguments every day in a fairly balanced way, with video clips of the key testimony, or at least what they deemed the key testimony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad   3,938 #82 Posted April 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Delbow said: The Guardian (not my favourite news outlet tbh) summarised the prosecution and defence arguments every day in a fairly balanced way, with video clips of the key testimony, or at least what they deemed the key testimony. Ah ok . I followed it on Court TV . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   259 #83 Posted April 21, 2021 Minneapolis paid out $3million in compensation just a few years earlier after an arrestee was left in prone position with officers restraining him with weight on his back. Positional asphyxiation, they pledged to train officers to avoid doing this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delbow   686 #84 Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, hackey lad said: Ah ok . I followed it on Court TV . Haven't heard of that, what's the bias? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...