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Finally, a little bit of justice for a Black man in America. You'd like to think that this is the beginning of the end for cops killing Black people without consequences, but there are still legal structures that make that very easy, as this article details.

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Chauvin got what he deserved but lets not make martyrs out of vile people like Floyd, justice has been served.

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I think it's irrelevant to bring Mr Floyd's character into it. The important thing is that people should not have to fear the police, but that is the reality for Black and brown people in cities across America, where militarised police forces act like armies of occupation. It shouldn't even be notable that a white police officer has been found guilty of murdering a Black man, but it really is notable because it just doesn't happen (until now).

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Guilty of murder? 

I can't see that standing, it'll be overturned on appeal in my opinion. 

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4 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

Guilty of murder? 

I can't see that standing, it'll be overturned on appeal in my opinion. 

Yes, 2nd and 3rd degree murder, and manslaughter.

 

Why do you think that? I've been following the trial and, although it's obviously not the same as being there and hearing all the evidence, the evidence from the prosecution witnesses seemed pretty compelling, while the defence arguments were sometimes bizarre in their 'whataboutery'

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Ah, Second and third degree is different. 

You said murder which suggests straight up 1st degree. 

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2 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

Ah, Second and third degree is different. 

You said murder which suggests straight up 1st degree. 

He wasn't charged with 1st degree, but was convicted on all three counts that he was charged with.

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I haven't been following the trial so I didn't know that. 

Anyway, regardless of the outcome I feel america is set to burn. 

It's divided in a way I've never seen in my lifetime. 

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3 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

I haven't been following the trial so I didn't know that. 

Anyway, regardless of the outcome I feel america is set to burn. 

It's divided in a way I've never seen in my lifetime. 

I think you can thank four years of Trump for that.

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8 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

It's divided in a way I've never seen in my lifetime. 

This bit is true, although hopefully with the white supremacist out of the White House things will become a bit less polarised. America probably would be burning right now if this trial had been a re-run of Rodney King. But policing in the US is a racialised disaster, and you have to think that Chauvin belived that he could suffocate someone Black while being filmed for over 9 minutes and get away with it, because his experience would have told him he could.

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2 minutes ago, Delbow said:

This bit is true, although hopefully with the white supremacist out of the White House things will become a bit less polarised. America probably would be burning right now if this trial had been a re-run of Rodney King. But policing in the US is a racialised disaster, and you have to think that Chauvin belived that he could suffocate someone Black while being filmed for over 9 minutes and get away with it, because his experience would have told him he could.

Oh my god you had to play the "Trump is a white supremisist" card 🙄

This has nothing to do with Trump. He's gone for now so concentrate on the future 🙏

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46 minutes ago, Delbow said:

Finally, a little bit of justice for a Black man in America. You'd like to think that this is the beginning of the end for cops killing Black people without consequences, but there are still legal structures that make that very easy, as this article details.

It'd be nice to see the beginning of the end of black people killing black people. Over 90% of black homicides in America are carried out by other black people. This idea that the police are going around slaughtering black people is nonsense.

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