Amey Roadworks Query.

[spilldig 188]

Hi everyone. A bit of a problem for one of our neighbours if anyone knows the answer. Basically they have gone on a two week holiday somewhere  after hiring a camper van and the car has been left at home on the road. Amey posted signs up  four days  ago saying the road will be closed and no parking allowed from the fifteenth,  Now given that people can go on holiday for two weeks I reckon that they should give at least two weeks notice in advance which they haven't done, so has it happened to anyone on here, or does anyone know what does happen?

[dave_the_m 61]

In theory if the vehicle was parked before the signs went up and hasn't moved since (e.g. by looking at the wheel rotations before and after) then they shouldn't be liable. Council are supposed to take photos at the time the signs went up.

[rudds1 102]

Chances are it will be moved and then the owner will have to pay for its release then try to claim costs back off Amey     Why they can’t  just move it to say next street then put it back when works are completed at their cost I don’t know 

[Planner1 437]

24 minutes ago, rudds1 said:

Chances are it will be moved and then the owner will have to pay for its release then try to claim costs back off Amey     Why they can’t  just move it to say next street then put it back when works are completed at their cost I don’t know 

If they move it to a nearby road and it gets damaged / stolen while it's there, the owner isn't going to be happy and may try to pursue Amey / the Council for the costs. Also, the people who live on the street where it is deposited might not be happy about the vehicle cluttering up "their" parking space.

 

When the vehicle is removed, it's taken by the removal contractor to a secure compound from which the owner can collect it, so the chances of damage or theft are minimised.

 

Removing vehicles is expensive. If the contractor had to make two visits (to move the vehicle then put it back in its original place) every time a vehicle needed to be moved, it would cost the Council a lot of money.

 

No way of doing it is perfect, but doing it the way they do is the least risky approach for the Council / Amey.  

Edited April 11, 2021 by Planner1

[rudds1 102]

20 minutes ago, Planner1 said:

If they move it to a nearby road and it gets damaged / stolen while it's there, the owner isn't going to be happy and may try to pursue Amey / the Council for the costs. Also, the people who live on the street where it is deposited might not be happy about the vehicle cluttering up "their" parking space.

 

When the vehicle is removed, it's taken by the removal contractor to a secure compound from which the owner can collect it, so the chances of damage or theft are minimised.

 

Removing vehicles is expensive. If the contractor had to make two visits (to move the vehicle then put it back in its original place) every time a vehicle needed to be moved, it would cost the Council a lot of money.

 

No way of doing it is perfect, but doing it the way they do is the least risky approach for the Council / Amey.  

Just moving it Snd putting it back would be cheaper for everyone though would it not.   As owner will claim costs of getting out of a compound off council / amay.   Unless it’s done at cost to the owner who’s innocently gone away for a few days unaware their road was going to have works done to it at short notice 

Edited April 11, 2021 by rudds1

[Magneteer 20]

Well, that's fair enough P1. It's better to remove it to a secure site, but the car owners should'nt have to pay any storage fees if they weren't given enough notice of the roadworks. That should be done at Ameys expense I reckon.

[Bargepole23 337]

4 hours ago, spilldig said:

Hi everyone. A bit of a problem for one of our neighbours if anyone knows the answer. Basically they have gone on a two week holiday somewhere  after hiring a camper van and the car has been left at home on the road. Amey posted signs up  four days  ago saying the road will be closed and no parking allowed from the fifteenth,  Now given that people can go on holiday for two weeks I reckon that they should give at least two weeks notice in advance which they haven't done, so has it happened to anyone on here, or does anyone know what does happen?

Holidaying in England is not allowed until tomorrow so a problem entirely of their own making. Remove the car and hit them with a punitive fine for its return and their flagrant disregard for the law.

Edited April 11, 2021 by Bargepole23

[Planner1 437]

4 hours ago, Magneteer said:

Well, that's fair enough P1. It's better to remove it to a secure site, but the car owners should'nt have to pay any storage fees if they weren't given enough notice of the roadworks. That should be done at Ameys expense I reckon.

The owner has to pay the release fee to get the vehicle back. But, there's a formal, regulated appeal process for anyone who thinks their vehicle has been removed incorrectly. The owners are refunded if it is  proven that Amey have not acted in accordance with requirements.

1 hour ago, Bargepole23 said:

Holidaying in England is not allowed until tomorrow so a problem entirely of their own making. Remove the car and hit them with a punitive fine for its return and their flagrant disregard for the law.

Removal of vehicles for roadworks to take place and the enforcement of lockdown rules are completely separate  processes which are enforced by different organisations.

 

The penalty for having the vehicle removed is fixed by law.

[Baron99 794]

6 hours ago, Planner1 said:

If they move it to a nearby road and it gets damaged / stolen while it's there, the owner isn't going to be happy and may try to pursue Amey / the Council for the costs. Also, the people who live on the street where it is deposited might not be happy about the vehicle cluttering up "their" parking space.

 

When the vehicle is removed, it's taken by the removal contractor to a secure compound from which the owner can collect it, so the chances of damage or theft are minimised.

 

Removing vehicles is expensive. If the contractor had to make two visits (to move the vehicle then put it back in its original place) every time a vehicle needed to be moved, it would cost the Council a lot of money.

 

No way of doing it is perfect, but doing it the way they do is the least risky approach for the Council / Amey.  

My bold. 

 

Apparently, one of the options is to relocate a vehicle to a nearby street, after a fine has been issued. 

 

https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/home/roads-pavements/parking-restrictions

 

I remember when Amey / SCC were carrying out resurfacing work on our road, I reckon we all got a letter at least a month beforehand & signs also went up around the same time. 

Edited April 11, 2021 by Baron99

[Baron99 794]

7 hours ago, spilldig said:

Hi everyone. A bit of a problem for one of our neighbours if anyone knows the answer. Basically they have gone on a two week holiday somewhere  after hiring a camper van and the car has been left at home on the road. Amey posted signs up  four days  ago saying the road will be closed and no parking allowed from the fifteenth,  Now given that people can go on holiday for two weeks I reckon that they should give at least two weeks notice in advance which they haven't done, so has it happened to anyone on here, or does anyone know what does happen?

Are Amey following SCC's own regulations? 

 

https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/home/roads-pavements/temporarily-close-road#:~:text=to close a road for,statutory advertising in local newspapers.

[Guest sibon]

They can’t have gone far. So maybe they should pop back and move it themselves.

 

Government advice up to 12 April is to minimise travel, so if they haven’t, that’s just tough really.

[spilldig 188]

15 hours ago, Bargepole23 said:

Holidaying in England is not allowed until tomorrow so a problem entirely of their own making. Remove the car and hit them with a punitive fine for its return and their flagrant disregard for the law.

Yes I wondered about that but the problem could arise when things are normal or someone recovering from an illness or someone having treatment in hospital.