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[trastrick]

3 hours ago, The_DADDY said:

That's an opinion and as such meaningless. 

Only the "conventional wisdom" which is sprinkled like manna from heaven by the likes of BBC and the Guardian is acceptable in politically correct, polite public these days.

 

I'm surprised I've been allowed to post dissenting opinions here, for so long, without being banned.

 

Credit to the moderators, I suppose!

3 hours ago, Carbuncle said:

Actually, no. It's pretty much got the status of objective fact. He lied and lied and lied so he definitely qualifies as a liar. Most of his lies were to do with reinforcing Trump's self-image that's how he gets the tag of narcissist. They were clear as soon as Trump took the stage.

 

I confess I did not spot the moron bit immediately because I stopped paying attention but there is plenty of evidence for that too.

Just for interest can you post one unedited Trump lie, in context?

 

I can give you a few for Obama and Biden.

[Magilla]

6 hours ago, trastrick said:

Ya we know, Lol

 

Everything that Trump did right was because of Obama's brilliant policies.

He inherited, by his own definition, a booming economy and low unemployment.

 

Trump didn't change the trajectory of either in any meaningful way. Job creation slowed under Trump.

 

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Everything that Biden does wrong, is because of Trump's policies.

Not everything, but certainly the Afghan chaos is, in part.

 

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The first one sold in the last election,

 

We'll see if the second one sells in the next election.

Given that you appear to have completely forgotten that Trump had the same issues you highlighted, and handled them all abysmally, I doubt Biden is too worried just yet.

 

Edited August 24, 2021 by Magilla

[Magilla]

8 hours ago, trastrick said:

Again. Here the quote:

 

"Harris said she expected that medical experts would not be allowed to make decisions on a vaccine without interference from above.

 

“They’ll be muzzled, they’ll be suppressed, they will be sidelined,” Harris told CNN. “Because he’s looking at an election coming up in less than 60 days and he’s grasping to get whatever he can to pretend he has been a leader on this issue when he is not.”

 

In fact THAT NEVER HAPPENED!

Yep, it did:

 

Experts worry CDC is sidelined in coronavirus response:

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-us-news-ap-top-news-virus-outbreak-public-health-a6da659a0613c91f7bf7cecc2dde172f

 

Four ways Trump has meddled in pandemic science:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03035-4

How US President Donald Trump and his administration have silenced scientists, meddled in their reports and ignored their advice.

 

 

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The vaccine was developed by a consortium of private and public organizations, and duly released in record time to save perhaps millions of lives.

In spite of Trump, who then bungled the role out

 

America’s Vaccine Rollout Is Already a Disaster:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/americas-vaccine-rollout-disaster.html

 

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except for some poor souls who may have refused to take it because of this Giggly Lady's failed conspiracy theory.

Gosh, well Trump supporters must really trust her then:

https://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/569089-the-memo-boos-for-trump-show-scale-of-vaccine-challenge

 

... or, that conspiracy theory is actually one created in your head!

 

There's a reason there's been 400% spikes in Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Tennessee in recent weeks.

 

 

It's not because of anything Harris said, no matter how much you can delude yourself.

 

Like many of the Trump achievements you listed the other day.... a figment of your imagination!

Edited August 24, 2021 by Magilla

[altus]

6 hours ago, trastrick said:

Simply copy the first 4 lines of the cite, paste them in a Google search, and press enter.

 

You're welcome

 

As Magilla demonstrated, you don't cite your sources because you are attempting to mislead people. I don't need to chase round looking for them because you failing to provide a proper source indicates you are attempting to mislead and your post can be dismissed.

[altus]

5 hours ago, trastrick said:

Ah. "THEY" are trying to trick you!

If you look in the full Oxford English Dictionary, the one with the etymologies of words, you'll see that the use of 'they' as a singular neuter pronoun is hundreds of years old. It might have fallen somewhat out of favour for a while but the recent resurgence is just bringing that long existing use rather than inventing something new. As your gender isn't clear from your username I used the gender neutral one.

[tinfoilhat]

Ros Atkins brings a bit of clarity.

 

BBC News - Ros Atkins on... Trump's Taliban deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-58311135

[The Joker]

7 hours ago, trastrick said:

And especially if . . . has a hot wife!

Which one?

 

lol

 

LOL . . . etc

 

 

7 hours ago, trastrick said:

I'm surprised I've been allowed to post dissenting opinions here, for so long, without being banned.

It works both ways.

 

I'm surprised I've been allowed to ridicule your lack of intelligence, for so long, without being banned.

 

lol

 

LOL . . .etc

 

[trastrick]

2 hours ago, Magilla said:

Yep, it did:

 

Experts worry CDC is sidelined in coronavirus response:

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-us-news-ap-top-news-virus-outbreak-public-health-a6da659a0613c91f7bf7cecc2dde172f

 

Four ways Trump has meddled in pandemic science:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03035-4

How US President Donald Trump and his administration have silenced scientists, meddled in their reports and ignored their advice.

 

 

In spite of Trump, who then bungled the role out

 

America’s Vaccine Rollout Is Already a Disaster:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/americas-vaccine-rollout-disaster.html

 

Gosh, well Trump supporters must really trust her then:

https://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/569089-the-memo-boos-for-trump-show-scale-of-vaccine-challenge

 

... or, that conspiracy theory is actually one created in your head!

 

There's a reason there's been 400% spikes in Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Tennessee in recent weeks.

 

 

It's not because of anything Harris said, no matter how much you can delude yourself.

 

Like many of the Trump achievements you listed the other day.... a figment of your imagination!

From the same article you cited first:

"CDC first learned in late December of the emergence of a new disease in China, and the U.S. identified its first case in January. In those early days, the CDC held frequent calls with reporters. It also quickly developed a test it could run at its labs, and a test kit to be sent to state health department labs to detect the virus.

But February proved to be a disaster. The test kit was flawed, delaying the ability of states to do testing. A CDC-run surveillance system, meant to look for signs of the virus in people who had thought they had the flu, was slow to get off the ground. Officials at the CDC and at other federal agencies were slow to recognize infections from Europe were outpacing ones from travelers to China."

 

The President takes advice from all his Government Agency advisors on all serious matterS, but in the end the President has to decide, on matters of grave consequence. Like wars, natrural disasters and pandemics. The buck stops with him, for better or worse as we have we recently seen, except for Biden, who refuses to taken respopnsibility for his own decisions.

The problem is with advisors, like Military, Intelligence, Health and Economics, to these specialist hammers, everything looks like a nail, and it is why Presidents are elected every 4 years and held to account for their decisions.

These advisors are humans with human flaws, not gods. lOL

 

See below:, lOL

 

The Atlantic - MAY 21, 2020
By Alexis C. Madrigal and Robinson Meyer

‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’
The government’s disease-fighting agency is conflating viral and antibody tests, compromising a few crucial metrics that governors depend on to reopen their economies. Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, and other states are doing the same.

 

Washington Post - By Tim Elfrink, Ben Guarino and Chris Mooney 
September 21, 2020 

CDC reverses itself and says guidelines it posted on coronavirus airborne transmission were wrong,,,

Salt Lake Tribune, 2021/05/13ndy Larsen: Where the CDC went wrong on COVID-19 spread, masks and vaccination benefits 

How the CDC failed health officials desperate for COVID-19 helphttps://www.usatoday.com › investigations › 2020/09/16
Sep. 16, 2020 

 

Anthony Fauci has been wrong about everything with mehttps://www.USA TODAY› todaysdebate › 2020/07/14
Jul. 14, 2020

 

Dr. Fauci needs to be held responsible for COVID-19 mistakeshttps://nypost.com › 2021/01/24 
Jan. 24, 2021 — At the very least, the nation's top infectious-diseases expert and chief medical adviser to Biden is loose with the facts and is prone to ....,

2 hours ago, altus said:

 

As Magilla demonstrated, you don't cite your sources because you are attempting to mislead people. I don't need to chase round looking for them because you failing to provide a proper source indicates you are attempting to mislead and your post can be dismissed.

Feel free to dismiss, Lol

[Magilla]

51 minutes ago, trastrick said:

From the same article you cited first:

"CDC first learned in late December of the emergence of a new disease in China, and the U.S. identified its first case in January. In those early days, the CDC held frequent calls with reporters. It also quickly developed a test it could run at its labs, and a test kit to be sent to state health department labs to detect the virus.

But February proved to be a disaster. The test kit was flawed, delaying the ability of states to do testing. A CDC-run surveillance system, meant to look for signs of the virus in people who had thought they had the flu, was slow to get off the ground. Officials at the CDC and at other federal agencies were slow to recognize infections from Europe were outpacing ones from travelers to China."

 

The President takes advice from all his Government Agency advisors on all serious matterS, but in the end the President has to decide, on matters of grave consequence. Like wars, natrural disasters and pandemics. The buck stops with him, for better or worse as we have we recently seen, except for Biden, who refuses to taken respopnsibility for his own decisions.

Except when the buck really does stop with Trump, in which case you start falling over yourself with misleading quotes

 

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The problem is with advisors, like Military, Intelligence, Health and Economics, to these specialist hammers, everything looks like a nail, and it is why Presidents are elected every 4 years and held to account for their decisions.

These advisors are humans with human flaws, not gods.

Trump removed most of the advisers at those agencies who had experience dealing with pandemics, replacing them with Trumpists... who didn't.

 

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The Atlantic - MAY 21, 2020
By Alexis C. Madrigal and Robinson Meyer

‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’
The government’s disease-fighting agency is conflating viral and antibody tests, compromising a few crucial metrics that governors depend on to reopen their economies. Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, and other states are doing the same.

 

Washington Post - By Tim Elfrink, Ben Guarino and Chris Mooney 
September 21, 2020 

CDC reverses itself and says guidelines it posted on coronavirus airborne transmission were wrong,,,

Salt Lake Tribune, 2021/05/13ndy Larsen: Where the CDC went wrong on COVID-19 spread, masks and vaccination benefits 

How the CDC failed health officials desperate for COVID-19 helphttps://www.usatoday.com › investigations › 2020/09/16
Sep. 16, 2020 

Someone needs to check the dates on these articles

 

These all refer to the agency under Trumps leadership!

 

That's what happens when you fill top positions at these agencies with people for political reasons, rather than ability

 

..but even Trumps CDC director still didn't think Trump was doing it right:

https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-director-prayed-trump-would-understand-severity-covid-19-2021-6

 

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Anthony Fauci has been wrong about everything with mehttps://www.USA TODAY› todaysdebate › 2020/07/14
Jul. 14, 2020

Says Peter Navarro, Assistant to President Trump

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/07/14/anthony-fauci-wrong-with-me-peter-navarro-editorials-debates/5439374002/

 

Unsurprisingly...

 

USA Today: Navarro’s anti-Fauci column didn’t meet standards:

https://apnews.com/article/ny-state-wire-virus-outbreak-peter-navarro-us-news-infectious-diseases-ee6e3f37dad5fab530f8f7e6f89c90e8

"USA Today says that a column that the newspaper solicited and published from presidential trade adviser Peter Navarro criticizing Dr. Anthony Fauci was misleading and did not meet fact-checking standards."

 

...like your posts

 

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Dr. Fauci needs to be held responsible for COVID-19 mistakeshttps://nypost.com › 2021/01/24 
Jan. 24, 2021 — At the very least, the nation's top infectious-diseases expert and chief medical adviser to Biden is loose with the facts and is prone to ....,

https://nypost.com/2021/01/24/dr-fauci-needs-to-be-held-responsible-for-mistakes-devine/

 

...which takes Navarro's piece as gospel, without doing any fact checking

 

Turns out... she's a lot like you... has form for posting untrue statements!

 

Quaden Bayles and family to receive close to $200,000 in damages in settlement over Miranda Devine tweets:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/sep/23/quaden-bayles-and-family-to-receive-close-to-200000-in-damages-in-settlement-with-miranda-devine

"News Corp columnist apologised for ‘hurtful and untrue’ comments about Indigenous boy with dwarfism"

 

On balance, I think Fauci's reputation is secure

 

Edited August 24, 2021 by Magilla

[trastrick]

Trump, Trump, Trump.! Get over it. 

 

He lost the election. Time to move on.

 

Biden is in charge now.

 

Be happy, enjoy!

 

Lol

Edited August 24, 2021 by trastrick

[The_DADDY]

9 hours ago, trastrick said:

Only the "conventional wisdom" which is sprinkled like manna from heaven by the likes of BBC and the Guardian is acceptable in politically correct, polite public these days.

 

I'm surprised I've been allowed to post dissenting opinions here, for so long, without being banned.

 

Credit to the moderators, I suppose!

Agreed on both points. 

Hats off to the Mods 🙏

[whiteowl]

54 minutes ago, trastrick said:

Trump, Trump, Trump.! Get over it. 

 

He lost the election. Time to move on.

 

Biden is in charge now.

 

Be happy, enjoy!

 

Lol

I think that after watching Biden organise the retreat from Afganistan, it must finally put to bed any doubts that Republicans had that he rigged the election