tinfoilhat 11 #337 Posted August 24, 2021 Ros Atkins brings a bit of clarity. BBC News - Ros Atkins on... Trump's Taliban deal https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-58311135 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker 10 #338 Posted August 24, 2021 7 hours ago, trastrick said: And especially if . . . has a hot wife! Which one? lol LOL . . . etc 7 hours ago, trastrick said: I'm surprised I've been allowed to post dissenting opinions here, for so long, without being banned. It works both ways. I'm surprised I've been allowed to ridicule your lack of intelligence, for so long, without being banned. lol LOL . . .etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick 866 #339 Posted August 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Magilla said: Yep, it did: Experts worry CDC is sidelined in coronavirus response: https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-us-news-ap-top-news-virus-outbreak-public-health-a6da659a0613c91f7bf7cecc2dde172f Four ways Trump has meddled in pandemic science: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03035-4 How US President Donald Trump and his administration have silenced scientists, meddled in their reports and ignored their advice. In spite of Trump, who then bungled the role out America’s Vaccine Rollout Is Already a Disaster: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/americas-vaccine-rollout-disaster.html Gosh, well Trump supporters must really trust her then: https://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/569089-the-memo-boos-for-trump-show-scale-of-vaccine-challenge ... or, that conspiracy theory is actually one created in your head! There's a reason there's been 400% spikes in Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Tennessee in recent weeks. It's not because of anything Harris said, no matter how much you can delude yourself. Like many of the Trump achievements you listed the other day.... a figment of your imagination! From the same article you cited first: "CDC first learned in late December of the emergence of a new disease in China, and the U.S. identified its first case in January. In those early days, the CDC held frequent calls with reporters. It also quickly developed a test it could run at its labs, and a test kit to be sent to state health department labs to detect the virus. But February proved to be a disaster. The test kit was flawed, delaying the ability of states to do testing. A CDC-run surveillance system, meant to look for signs of the virus in people who had thought they had the flu, was slow to get off the ground. Officials at the CDC and at other federal agencies were slow to recognize infections from Europe were outpacing ones from travelers to China." The President takes advice from all his Government Agency advisors on all serious matterS, but in the end the President has to decide, on matters of grave consequence. Like wars, natrural disasters and pandemics. The buck stops with him, for better or worse as we have we recently seen, except for Biden, who refuses to taken respopnsibility for his own decisions. The problem is with advisors, like Military, Intelligence, Health and Economics, to these specialist hammers, everything looks like a nail, and it is why Presidents are elected every 4 years and held to account for their decisions. These advisors are humans with human flaws, not gods. lOL See below:, lOL The Atlantic - MAY 21, 2020 By Alexis C. Madrigal and Robinson Meyer ‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’ The government’s disease-fighting agency is conflating viral and antibody tests, compromising a few crucial metrics that governors depend on to reopen their economies. Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, and other states are doing the same. Washington Post - By Tim Elfrink, Ben Guarino and Chris Mooney September 21, 2020 CDC reverses itself and says guidelines it posted on coronavirus airborne transmission were wrong,,, Salt Lake Tribune, 2021/05/13ndy Larsen: Where the CDC went wrong on COVID-19 spread, masks and vaccination benefits How the CDC failed health officials desperate for COVID-19 helphttps://www.usatoday.com › investigations › 2020/09/16 Sep. 16, 2020 Anthony Fauci has been wrong about everything with mehttps://www.USA TODAY› todaysdebate › 2020/07/14 Jul. 14, 2020 Dr. Fauci needs to be held responsible for COVID-19 mistakeshttps://nypost.com › 2021/01/24 Jan. 24, 2021 — At the very least, the nation's top infectious-diseases expert and chief medical adviser to Biden is loose with the facts and is prone to ...., 2 hours ago, altus said: As Magilla demonstrated, you don't cite your sources because you are attempting to mislead people. I don't need to chase round looking for them because you failing to provide a proper source indicates you are attempting to mislead and your post can be dismissed. Feel free to dismiss, Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla 510 #340 Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, trastrick said: From the same article you cited first: "CDC first learned in late December of the emergence of a new disease in China, and the U.S. identified its first case in January. In those early days, the CDC held frequent calls with reporters. It also quickly developed a test it could run at its labs, and a test kit to be sent to state health department labs to detect the virus. But February proved to be a disaster. The test kit was flawed, delaying the ability of states to do testing. A CDC-run surveillance system, meant to look for signs of the virus in people who had thought they had the flu, was slow to get off the ground. Officials at the CDC and at other federal agencies were slow to recognize infections from Europe were outpacing ones from travelers to China." The President takes advice from all his Government Agency advisors on all serious matterS, but in the end the President has to decide, on matters of grave consequence. Like wars, natrural disasters and pandemics. The buck stops with him, for better or worse as we have we recently seen, except for Biden, who refuses to taken respopnsibility for his own decisions. Except when the buck really does stop with Trump, in which case you start falling over yourself with misleading quotes Quote The problem is with advisors, like Military, Intelligence, Health and Economics, to these specialist hammers, everything looks like a nail, and it is why Presidents are elected every 4 years and held to account for their decisions. These advisors are humans with human flaws, not gods. Trump removed most of the advisers at those agencies who had experience dealing with pandemics, replacing them with Trumpists... who didn't. Quote The Atlantic - MAY 21, 2020 By Alexis C. Madrigal and Robinson Meyer ‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’ The government’s disease-fighting agency is conflating viral and antibody tests, compromising a few crucial metrics that governors depend on to reopen their economies. Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, and other states are doing the same. Washington Post - By Tim Elfrink, Ben Guarino and Chris Mooney September 21, 2020 CDC reverses itself and says guidelines it posted on coronavirus airborne transmission were wrong,,, Salt Lake Tribune, 2021/05/13ndy Larsen: Where the CDC went wrong on COVID-19 spread, masks and vaccination benefits How the CDC failed health officials desperate for COVID-19 helphttps://www.usatoday.com › investigations › 2020/09/16 Sep. 16, 2020 Someone needs to check the dates on these articles These all refer to the agency under Trumps leadership! That's what happens when you fill top positions at these agencies with people for political reasons, rather than ability ..but even Trumps CDC director still didn't think Trump was doing it right: https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-director-prayed-trump-would-understand-severity-covid-19-2021-6 Quote Anthony Fauci has been wrong about everything with mehttps://www.USA TODAY› todaysdebate › 2020/07/14 Jul. 14, 2020 Says Peter Navarro, Assistant to President Trump https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/07/14/anthony-fauci-wrong-with-me-peter-navarro-editorials-debates/5439374002/ Unsurprisingly... USA Today: Navarro’s anti-Fauci column didn’t meet standards: https://apnews.com/article/ny-state-wire-virus-outbreak-peter-navarro-us-news-infectious-diseases-ee6e3f37dad5fab530f8f7e6f89c90e8 "USA Today says that a column that the newspaper solicited and published from presidential trade adviser Peter Navarro criticizing Dr. Anthony Fauci was misleading and did not meet fact-checking standards." ...like your posts Quote Dr. Fauci needs to be held responsible for COVID-19 mistakeshttps://nypost.com › 2021/01/24 Jan. 24, 2021 — At the very least, the nation's top infectious-diseases expert and chief medical adviser to Biden is loose with the facts and is prone to ...., https://nypost.com/2021/01/24/dr-fauci-needs-to-be-held-responsible-for-mistakes-devine/ ...which takes Navarro's piece as gospel, without doing any fact checking Turns out... she's a lot like you... has form for posting untrue statements! Quaden Bayles and family to receive close to $200,000 in damages in settlement over Miranda Devine tweets: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/sep/23/quaden-bayles-and-family-to-receive-close-to-200000-in-damages-in-settlement-with-miranda-devine "News Corp columnist apologised for ‘hurtful and untrue’ comments about Indigenous boy with dwarfism" On balance, I think Fauci's reputation is secure Edited August 24, 2021 by Magilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick 866 #341 Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) Trump, Trump, Trump.! Get over it. He lost the election. Time to move on. Biden is in charge now. Be happy, enjoy! Lol Edited August 24, 2021 by trastrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY 3,339 #342 Posted August 24, 2021 9 hours ago, trastrick said: Only the "conventional wisdom" which is sprinkled like manna from heaven by the likes of BBC and the Guardian is acceptable in politically correct, polite public these days. I'm surprised I've been allowed to post dissenting opinions here, for so long, without being banned. Credit to the moderators, I suppose! Agreed on both points. Hats off to the Mods 🙏 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
whiteowl 52 #343 Posted August 24, 2021 54 minutes ago, trastrick said: Trump, Trump, Trump.! Get over it. He lost the election. Time to move on. Biden is in charge now. Be happy, enjoy! Lol I think that after watching Biden organise the retreat from Afganistan, it must finally put to bed any doubts that Republicans had that he rigged the election Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick 866 #344 Posted August 24, 2021 58 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: Agreed on both points. Hats off to the Mods 🙏 Being a sceptic is a lousy job, but somebody has to do it, Lol But where would we be without them? From Socrates thru Galileo, Newton, Darwin, Wallace, Lyell (age of the Earth) and Wegener (continental drift), they all faced derision and ridicule in their time, from the closed minds of the powers that be. Einstein, no dummy he, opined, "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.” I think he was onto something there. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker 10 #345 Posted August 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, trastrick said: Einstein, no dummy he, opined, "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.” Yes, but we've already come to the conclusion that you are daft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trastrick 866 #346 Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) Another bad news day for Joe, bless him. "Exclusive: Americans' harsh judgment on Afghanistan costs Biden's approval, down to 41%" - USA Today From "The Hill" web site today. TheHill.com "Alarming new study finds delta infections come with viral load hundreds of times greater than original coronavirus" "UN Glasgow summit may be our last chance to prevent self-created climate disaster" Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9922433/Kamala-Harris-flight-Singapore-delayed-three-hours-Havana-Syndrome.html "Kamala Harris' flight from Singapore is delayed by three hours because of Havana Syndrome: VP's Vietnam departure held back after 'anomalous health incident' in Hanoi that 'made two US staffers ill'" "Taliban says no evacuation extension as G7 meets on Afghan..." ...https://www.reuters.com › world › asia-pacific › taliban-sa... May joe's God give him the strength and wisdom to save us all! By the way, Joe's latest 41% looks a lot like the 40.6 for OrangeManBad Edited August 24, 2021 by trastrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker 10 #347 Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, trastrick said: Another bad news day for Joe, bless him. "Exclusive: Americans' harsh judgment on Afghanistan costs Biden's approval, down to 41%" - USA Today From "The Hill" web site today. TheHill.com "Alarming new study finds delta infections come with viral load hundreds of times greater than original coronavirus" "UN Glasgow summit may be our last chance to prevent self-created climate disaster" Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9922433/Kamala-Harris-flight-Singapore-delayed-three-hours-Havana-Syndrome.html "Kamala Harris' flight from Singapore is delayed by three hours because of Havana Syndrome: VP's Vietnam departure held back after 'anomalous health incident' in Hanoi that 'made two US staffers ill'" "Taliban says no evacuation extension as G7 meets on Afghan..." ...https://www.reuters.com › world › asia-pacific › taliban-sa... May joe's God give him the strength and wisdom to save us all! By the way, Joe's latest 41% looks a lot like the 40.6 for OrangeManDad And I told you earlier, I wanted Bernie Sanders as President and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as VP. Yes, the bartender from New York. That one. lol LOL . . . etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus 513 #348 Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, trastrick said: Being a sceptic is a lousy job, but somebody has to do it, Lol If you were a true sceptic, you'd be sceptical about Trump too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...