Planner1 424 #25 Posted May 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Bigal1 said: so much for Intelligent traffic management 5 months is not exactly temporary just another demonstration by he council that they are all against pollution unless of course it involves them doing something Nothing to do with intelligent traffic management. Urban traffic control systems can change the timings on traffic signals but they can’t change the way the junction operates, which is embedded in the programming of the signal controller. How much pollution do we think that following the very short diversion is actually causing? The signals are working exactly as they did before, so no extra pollution there. If it’s a collapsed sewer, it’s not the councils fault that this has happened, or that it’s taken the owners of the infrastructure a while to fix it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dan2802 53 #26 Posted May 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Planner1 said: Nothing to do with intelligent traffic management. Urban traffic control systems can change the timings on traffic signals but they can’t change the way the junction operates, which is embedded in the programming of the signal controller. How much pollution do we think that following the very short diversion is actually causing? The signals are working exactly as they did before, so no extra pollution there. If it’s a collapsed sewer, it’s not the councils fault that this has happened, or that it’s taken the owners of the infrastructure a while to fix it. Maybe SCC could/should put pressure on whoever responsibility it is to carry out the repair ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ 1,908 #27 Posted May 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, dan2802 said: Maybe SCC could/should put pressure on whoever responsibility it is to carry out the repair ? I understand from comments earlier in this topic that SCC have been informed some time ago that repairs have been completed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
FORE 12 #28 Posted May 24, 2021 Would it be particulary time consuming to just put a hood over the infirmary road lights (townbound) until the repair is complete? Cheap, quick and takes no time to put up AND take down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol 596 #29 Posted May 24, 2021 The traffic lights at the junction still have a purpose. a-it allows the trams to run through knowing that they are protected by lights. b-it enables pedestrians to cross Infirmary Road safely and to access the tram platforms. d-it slows traffic down which are a) idiots b) being confused by sat nav c)confronted by unexpected hazard and road works signs. d-the stop lines on Albert Terrace Road are solid and set back too far from Infirmary Road for a clear view to the left. Removing the lights would require new road markings (stop/give way) at the actual junction and reminders of a new layout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
BigAl1 142 #30 Posted May 25, 2021 19 hours ago, Planner1 said: Nothing to do with intelligent traffic management. Urban traffic control systems can change the timings on traffic signals but they can’t change the way the junction operates, which is embedded in the programming of the signal controller. How much pollution do we think that following the very short diversion is actually causing? The signals are working exactly as they did before, so no extra pollution there. If it’s a collapsed sewer, it’s not the councils fault that this has happened, or that it’s taken the owners of the infrastructure a while to fix it. Unnecessary pollution is being caused by the fact that traffic heading towards town are being stopped for no reason and could be avoided. An interesting question about the diversion had not thought about that. So that's all right nobodies fault that after 5 months it is still not repaired I too had thought about the simple solution of a hood but discounted it as pedestrians would still wish to cross safely but if we had intelligent trafic management then that would have still been possible as the lights would only turn red at the request of pedestrians (cyclists?) wishing to cross. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Planner1 424 #31 Posted May 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Bigal1 said: I too had thought about the simple solution of a hood but discounted it as pedestrians would still wish to cross safely but if we had intelligent trafic management then that would have still been possible as the lights would only turn red at the request of pedestrians (cyclists?) wishing to cross. Traffic signal controllers can be configured in a number of ways. One of these is to have ultimate flexibility and let the actual traffic and pedestrian demands dictate the stage sequence, at least at quiet times of the day, like evening and overnight. There is a downside to this approach, it involves having a lot of potential options of which approaches get a green signal and what sequence the signals actually follow. I recall a situation where a junction was configured like this and 99.99% of the time, it used to follow a particular sequence, because the traffic demands were usually in place to make it do that. However very rarely, because of the prevailing traffic conditions, it did something different, which wasn’t in itself unsafe, but drivers were accustomed to the normal sequence. This normal sequence meant that drivers turning right on a main road didn’t have to concern themselves with opposing traffic, as that traffic stream normally got a red when their ahead movement got green. On rare occasions, usually late at night, they both (the ahead movements) got green and there were occasional collisions as right turning drivers clearly didn’t expect to be in conflict with the other movement. So, with safety in mind, the engineers tend to have signals working in a fairly fixed sequence, with just the green timings altering with time of day / day of week. It might not be the most efficient, but it avoids drivers getting “confused” which seems to happen more and more as time goes on. Theres also another angle to the debate about covering over the signal heads on an approach that’s not needed due to roadworks / closures. Vandals have been known to remove the covers, which can cause problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MunXy 10 #32 Posted May 28, 2021 Yet another hole opened, this time on Buckingham Street Burngreave. opened up Monday around 08:00, no one been seen there since, 4 days and counting. any other time wasting holes elsewhere around Sheffield's already potholed road system? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
BigAl1 142 #33 Posted May 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, MunXy said: Yet another hole opened, this time on Buckingham Street Burngreave. opened up Monday around 08:00, no one been seen there since, 4 days and counting. any other time wasting holes elsewhere around Sheffield's already potholed road system? 4 days and you are complaining! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol 596 #34 Posted May 29, 2021 Work has started in earnest with extensive excavation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
BigAl1 142 #35 Posted June 12, 2021 At last! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...