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19 hours ago, Padders said:

It's a lot of time, effort, and a huge amount of money to spend on a million to one chance.

After all, it's primary function is to search for early life.

Money that could be spent preserving the planet we occupy and probably will ever only occupy.

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25 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

Money that could be spent preserving the planet we occupy and probably will ever only occupy.

Probably...

But the way technology is advancing, Mars could be our salvation.

In 100 yrs time we could have a new planet to live on (and destroy)

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58 minutes ago, Padders said:

Probably...

But the way technology is advancing, Mars could be our salvation.

In 100 yrs time we could have a new planet to live on (and destroy)

With the world's population growing at 200,000 per day it's unlikely that more than a hand full of people will be able to emigrate to Mars. The logistics of building enough transportation for even a fraction of the population will probably take most of the resources of our "new" planet.

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On 19/02/2021 at 19:08, Anna B said:

That, but I suspect they will also be looking for mineral deposits too, with a view to mining them in the future.

Surprisingly, a new mineral-Kernowite, was discovered quite recently in Cornwall. That was on mined rock though.

 

Presumably  there is  potential to find minerals I would think. On the surface, and a bit below the surface eventually if feasible. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-55396421

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On 20/02/2021 at 15:00, max said:

With the world's population growing at 200,000 per day it's unlikely that more than a hand full of people will be able to emigrate to Mars. The logistics of building enough transportation for even a fraction of the population will probably take most of the resources of our "new" planet.

Don't expect to see it on Rightmove anytime though..even if logistics one day  allow humans to get to Mars- conditions would not warrant living there.

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4 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

Don't expect to see it on Rightmove anytime though..even if logistics one day  allow humans to get to Mars- conditions would not warrant living there.

Don't bet on it Mr Fisk,

Look how we've progressed the last 100yrs, this Planet will be uninhabitable in a 100yrs time.

If humans are to survive, we must find alternative living accommodation,

Technology will solve any problems.

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3 hours ago, Padders said:

Don't bet on it Mr Fisk,

Look how we've progressed the last 100yrs, this Planet will be uninhabitable in a 100yrs time.

If humans are to survive, we must find alternative living accommodation,

Technology will solve any problems.

We better get started then.  80 million people use Heathrow per year.  Imagine if instead of coming from and going to other countries they were flying to Mars.  At that rate it would take 90 years to get everyone there.  

 

I don't think an A380 can be configured for 1000 people.  Assuming the space craft was, you'd need 7 million flights.  Given the travel time, let's be generous and imagine each craft makes four trips to Mars.  That's 1.75 million craft you'd need.  For context, it's estimated that there have only been 150,000 aircraft made so far and most of those don't exist any more.

 

Unless you leave most people behind, it's impossible.

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32 minutes ago, Arnold_Lane said:

We better get started then.  80 million people use Heathrow per year.  Imagine if instead of coming from and going to other countries they were flying to Mars.  At that rate it would take 90 years to get everyone there.  

 

I don't think an A380 can be configured for 1000 people.  Assuming the space craft was, you'd need 7 million flights.  Given the travel time, let's be generous and imagine each craft makes four trips to Mars.  That's 1.75 million craft you'd need.  For context, it's estimated that there have only been 150,000 aircraft made so far and most of those don't exist any more.

 

Unless you leave most people behind, it's impossible.

A small colony living on Mars is probably a more likely scenario. 

And if useful minerals are found, any mining will be done by auto machines and AI.

 

If it's financially worthwhile.

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3 minutes ago, Anna B said:

A small colony living on Mars is probably a more likely scenario. 

And if useful minerals are found, any mining will be done by auto machines and AI.

 

If it's financially worthwhile.

That's pretty much true of any mining/oil and gas exploration/desalination etc etc. on Earth.

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4 hours ago, Padders said:

Don't bet on it Mr Fisk,

Look how we've progressed the last 100yrs, this Planet will be uninhabitable in a 100yrs time.

If humans are to survive, we must find alternative living accommodation,

Technology will solve any problems.

We can always live underground, deep, dark safe.

 

We'll start all over again..

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2 hours ago, Anna B said:

A small colony living on Mars is probably a more likely scenario. 

And if useful minerals are found, any mining will be done by auto machines and AI.

 

If it's financially worthwhile.

Wonderful. At last something the British can show the rest of the world how it's done.

 

Bring back colonies, exploitation, land  grabbing, extinction, permanent ecological damage, empire, war, slavery, criminal transportation "If it's financially worthwhile". Lets spread out across the Solar System an the Galaxy spreading exploitative capitalism "If it's financially worthwhile". 

 

Let the travel industry organize trips for billionaires to graffiti Saturn's rings "If it's financially worthwhile". 

 

Capitalism at its worst.

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3 hours ago, Arnold_Lane said:

We better get started then.  80 million people use Heathrow per year.  Imagine if instead of coming from and going to other countries they were flying to Mars.  At that rate it would take 90 years to get everyone there.  

 

I don't think an A380 can be configured for 1000 people.  Assuming the space craft was, you'd need 7 million flights.  Given the travel time, let's be generous and imagine each craft makes four trips to Mars.  That's 1.75 million craft you'd need.  For context, it's estimated that there have only been 150,000 aircraft made so far and most of those don't exist any more.

 

Unless you leave most people behind, it's impossible.

Here's a project to build a space ship

 

https://www.buildtheenterprise.org/

 

90 day from Earth to Mars. 

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