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That tram_ train scheme ,granted a trial, came in at £60 million more than the initial £15 initial cost.

Mind boggling amounts of money.

 

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5 hours ago, butlers said:

That tram_ train scheme ,granted a trial, came in at £60 million more than the initial £15 initial cost.

Mind boggling amounts of money.

 

Whoever estimated that size of job at £15 needs to go back to college. Can't get much more than 3 pints for that these days. 

 

But seriously, if  schemes like were to awarded on a fixed priced contract, some big firms would surely go under.  I wouldn't be happy about quoting a job at £5k and then asking customer for £25K. I understand things can change and bits can be added on etc. but to cost 5 times more than the original estimate is crazy.

 

When Multiplex, an Australian company built Wembley,  they lost £183m on the original £445m fixed-price-design and construction cost.  Absolutely bonkers....

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2006/feb/24/newsstory.sport2

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, dave_the_m said:

The Rotherham link was an experiment - it required special new trams that can run on both rail types, and lots of faffing about with signalling and so on. It also runs just on a short length of freight line. A Dore link would have to run on the main line and compete with all the local and intercity train services. It would also require electrification of the line between Sheffield and Dore.

 

So that isn't going to happen any time soon.

Actually the Rotherham link is not just freight it shares some of the track with passenger services. having said that it would certainly be impractical to run the trams over the current track to Dore - for all sorts of reasons not the least that it would preclude electrification of the main line to London (or even Manchester) as trams use different systems to the mail line trains

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3 minutes ago, Bigal1 said:

Actually the Rotherham link is not just freight it shares some of the track with passenger services. having said that it would certainly be impractical to run the trams over the current track to Dore - for all sorts of reasons not the least that it would preclude electrification of the main line to London (or even Manchester) as trams use different systems to the mail line trains

Is it not the case though that for the majority of the route a separate line could be constructed using old track beds?

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20 hours ago, Bigal1 said:

Actually the Rotherham link is not just freight it shares some of the track with passenger services. having said that it would certainly be impractical to run the trams over the current track to Dore - for all sorts of reasons not the least that it would preclude electrification of the main line to London (or even Manchester) as trams use different systems to the mail line trains

The overhead wiring in Rotherham and the Tramtrains are designed for tram( 750 V DC ) and  25 000 V  AC main line electricity supply.

This was part of the brief for the trial.

Cuts in cost meant that the very expensive sub station was cut late on in the project.

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