Flanker7   20 #241 Posted March 15, 2021 tzijlstra I'm so disappointed in you I thought you were better than that. Park the condesension and arrogance. Thanks for your thoughts, not THE Law as handed down by the great one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,575 #242 Posted March 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Arnold_Lane said: A claim that has been made earlier in this thread.  However, neoliberalism and fascism aren't all that compatible, if you think about it. Never mind that fascism is actually National Socialism.   And since when have Communist countries been all that big on their citizens' right to protest?  They were in Chile in the early 1970s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #243 Posted March 15, 2021 34 minutes ago, Flanker7 said: tzijlstra I'm so disappointed in you I thought you were better than that. Park the condesension and arrogance. Thanks for your thoughts, not THE Law as handed down by the great one! Apologies! '_' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Arnold_Lane   0 #244 Posted March 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mister M said: They were in Chile in the early 1970s Not really.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ Â Â 1,908 #245 Posted March 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, tzijlstra said: Apologies! '_'Â No need for those @tzijlstra - it was good to read a sensible post for once that balanced both sides. It's been a long time, but IIRC when you were a regular, I don't think we always saw eye-to-eye, but I think I understand what you said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,575 #246 Posted March 15, 2021 47 minutes ago, Arnold_Lane said: Not really. Â Â Yes, really. Have a read about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #247 Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, RollingJ said: No need for those @tzijlstra - it was good to read a sensible post for once that balanced both sides. It's been a long time, but IIRC when you were a regular, I don't think we always saw eye-to-eye, but I think I understand what you said. No doubt we didn't, that is the joy of debate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Arnold_Lane   0 #248 Posted March 15, 2021 34 minutes ago, Mister M said: Yes, really. Have a read about it. Let’s agree to disagree. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet#Accusations_of_fascism   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,575 #249 Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Arnold_Lane said: Let’s agree to disagree. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet#Accusations_of_fascism   Pinochet ran a military junta which overthrew a democratically elected government. His government disappeared, tortured and murdered its political enemies, thousands of them. They burned books, violated people's human and democratic rights, and imposed neo liberal policies inspired by academics in their comfy Chicago University offices. Pinochet was a fascist, a dictator, a brute and a neo liberal. You might not think that qualifies him as a fascist and neo liberal, but I do.  Edited March 15, 2021 by Mister M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Arnold_Lane   0 #250 Posted March 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mister M said: You might not think that qualifies him as a fascist and neo liberal, but I do.  Me and a bunch of academics on the subject - but like I say, let’s agree to disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,575 #251 Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Arnold_Lane said: Me and a bunch of academics on the subject - but like I say, let’s agree to disagree. Listen, we can all scour the internet when challenged, and find people to agree with us. Not all of us live by dictionary definitions, but are perfectly able to understand what fascism and neoliberalism are. There are thousands of corpses and disappeared people to testify to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Arnold_Lane   0 #252 Posted March 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mister M said: Listen, we can all scour the internet when challenged, and find people to agree with us. Not all of us live by dictionary definitions, but are perfectly able to understand what fascism and neoliberalism are. There are thousands of corpses and disappeared people to testify to it. I don’t think you have challenged me to be honest.  You’ve described the actions of a despot and I haven’t denied Pinochet was that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...