Jimmy Carr: Sheffield City Hall: Saturday 26 March 2022

[Bilge]

8 hours ago, enntee said:

Considering that the right-hand lane (from Greenhill) has an abbreviated Chesterfield written by the arrow, there are good grounds to support the fact that most incidents are related to the competence of drivers involved.

I always think that arrow is a mistake and needs to be repainted as a right turn arrow.

 

When I'm going towards Chesterfield from that side I indicate right as I enter that lane as I know that's what I'm going to be doing at the roundabout. Not indicating would be misleading and confusing for others. Even though the lane says straight on only. At that point it might appear there isn't a right turn (to Chesterfield) option at all, you are just following a lane that is going towards 'C'field' and eventually it does go right.

[whiteowl]

10 hours ago, WarPig said:

Sadly, doing this when approaching Meadowhead roundabout from Greenhill can put you in the wrong lane.

All three lanes have arrows painted on the road surface indicating you can go straight on, but in actual fact only the left and centre lane actually go straight on. If you've chosen the right hand lane then as soon as you enter the roundabout you discover that you're now in a lane for only turning right. If you didn't see the arrow painted on the surface of your lane (which you might not in heavy slow moving traffic when the car in front is driving over the arrow), then you'd probably still think you can go straight on, only realising last minute that you can't.

I'm sure I read somewhere that there's some government advice about not having the turn right lanes signposted with a right arrow in them as, apparently, that can cause confusion and cause people to turn right onto the roundabout - ie go the wrong way round it.

 

Anecdotally, in over 30 years of driving I've only ever encountered someone going the wrong way round a roundabout once (Owlerbar roundabout - which is a weird roundabout in itself) but encounter, almost weekly, people trying to go straight on in turn-left or turn-right only lanes as they have seen a straight on arrow on the signpost.

 

From a personal point of view, I'd suggest that advice is wrong.

Edited December 11, 2020 by whiteowl

[WarPig]

11 minutes ago, whiteowl said:

I'm sure I read somewhere that there's some government advice about not having the turn right lanes signposted with a right arrow in them as, apparently, that can cause confusion and cause people to turn right onto the roundabout - ie go the wrong way round it.

I guess three not really anything you can do to cater for drivers that might do that. But even sensible and proficient drivers can and will fall foul of wanting to go straight on but suddenly realising at the last second they are in the wrong lane. Sensible drivers would carry on around the roundabout, others will suddenly veer to their left and change lane, oblivious to the fact theres are cars already in that lane.

[bassett one]

or if you are a big lorry bully your way into a lane

[smithy266]

Road markings and layouts are not designed by folks who actually drive...or even live in the area. There are so many places where this is the case. Then, once they have made a pigs ear of so many, they are promoted.

[Longcol]

On 14/12/2020 at 10:57, smithy266 said:

Road markings and layouts are not designed by folks who actually drive...or even live in the area. There are so many places where this is the case. Then, once they have made a pigs ear of so many, they are promoted.

Road markings etc are specified by the government.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/traffic-signs-signals-and-road-markings

 

  Can you imagine the chaos if every local authority could specify its own road markings?

[ads36]

and the cost...

 

(it's almost as if universal standards and processes are a good idea)

[bassett one]

been that way today ,queue from st james backing up past its waiting lane,making forward to norton into one lane ,causing huge queues,big queues from meadowhead going down to woodseats,backing up to nearly the garage,total madness,then to make things worse the dual carrage way towards bradway ,both ways inc norton,theyve decided to put up traffic lights in the middle,for road works.

[MuteWitness]

Have they fixed that water leak near the petrol station that runs right across the road?

[Longcol]

3 minutes ago, MuteWitness said:

Have they fixed that water leak near the petrol station that runs right across the road?

Ah, you've found the cause of all the congestion 😎

[MuteWitness]

5 hours ago, Longcol said:

Ah, you've found the cause of all the congestion 😎

I meant at Meadowhead not the Bradway garage where the road works are

Edited December 19, 2020 by MuteWitness

[bassett one]

been another crash ,outside the transport ground,dont know how many this year,but it must be double figures,there several probles 40mph on both sides leading to the juction next to the meadowhead roundabout.