Plastic Barriers Broomhill Glossop Rd

[Bargepole23 337]

7 hours ago, RollingJ said:

And in any case, if you are not standing there like a lemon, but just passing, as you normally do, there is close to zero risk.

Maybe so, but people will veer off the pavement into the road to make more room, with more risk to life and limb. By providing more space, the risk is mitigated.

[RollingJ 2,002]

In that case, they should possibly be a little less paranoid?

[Bargepole23 337]

14 hours ago, RollingJ said:

In that case, they should possibly be a little less paranoid?

Again, maybe so, especially in hindsight. But at the time of the first lockdown it was commonplace to cross the road or veer off the pavement to keep clear of others.

 

They also did no harm, and still do no harm. Plenty of room for vehicles to pass, and to be honest, I would always put the needs of more vulnerable road users above motor traffic.

[Pettytom 1]

On 07/12/2020 at 12:54, Colin Foster said:

Most pavements aren't wide enough to keep 2m apart.

That’s probably why the council are widening some of them.

 

Well done for identifying the problem.

[redruby 279]

On 08/12/2020 at 11:05, Bargepole23 said:

Again, maybe so, especially in hindsight. But at the time of the first lockdown it was commonplace to cross the road or veer off the pavement to keep clear of others.

 

They also did no harm, and still do no harm. Plenty of room for vehicles to pass, and to be honest, I would always put the needs of more vulnerable road users above motor traffic.

Oh there are plenty of people that are to put it politely ‘over cautious’ and feel there is a real risk of catching covid from someone passing by them on a footpath for a few seconds. 

This area in Broomhill does get crowded though so there is some logic in widening the area outside the shops. There are some parking spaces for the disabled who would be unable to walk far from their car. Everyone else can flipping well get off their lazy backsides and walk a few extra yards instead of putting their convenience over everyone else!

Edited December 10, 2020 by redruby

[Pettytom 1]

12 hours ago, redruby said:

Oh there are plenty of people that are to put it politely ‘over cautious’ and feel there is a real risk of catching covid from someone passing by them on a footpath for a few seconds. 

This area in Broomhill does get crowded though so there is some logic in widening the area outside the shops. There are some parking spaces for the disabled who would be unable to walk far from their car. Everyone else can flipping well get off their lazy backsides and walk a few extra yards instead of putting their convenience over everyone else!

Or use the huge car park on top of the shopping centre. Or the one by the Notty. Or the one on Spooner Road.

[myriad 10]

They are utterly pointless. A token gesture with no practical purpose. There are plenty of nearby pavements which get far more foot traffic and yet there are no barriers installed. And you don't catch covid from walking past somebody in the street anyway which shows how ridiculous it is.

[Colin Foster 70]

On 09/12/2020 at 20:11, Pettytom said:

That’s probably why the council are widening some of them.

 

Well done for identifying the problem.

Well done for missing the point.

[redruby 279]

8 hours ago, myriad said:

They are utterly pointless. A token gesture with no practical purpose. There are plenty of nearby pavements which get far more foot traffic and yet there are no barriers installed. And you don't catch covid from walking past somebody in the street anyway which shows how ridiculous it is.

Unfortunately many people are under the impression that there’s a real risk of catching covid walking past someone in the street.  Apparently a lot of people think they would be most likely to catch it from stranger. The reverse is actually true. This is a major reason covid can spread so quickly.

But I do think there’s some benefit widening the footpath in that particular area of Broomhill. People are more likely to congregate under the canopy and maybe wait around in the area for a lift. 
The truth is though is that we are causing a lot of pollution through driving too much  and exposure to that pollution makes people more susceptible to getting severe covid amongst many other health problems.  There is no easy answer to this because we’ve built up car dependency to such a extent and some people get so angry at the suggestion they should drive less. 

Edited December 12, 2020 by redruby

[markfor 10]

So will we need plastic barriers on all streets with narrow pavements???

[BigAl1 143]

On 12/12/2020 at 07:08, redruby said:

Unfortunately many people are under the impression that there’s a real risk of catching covid walking past someone in the street.  Apparently a lot of people think they would be most likely to catch it from stranger. The reverse is actually true. This is a major reason covid can spread so quickly.

 

No. the council have some money and want to give the impression to prevent the spread they are doing something with a visible statement that we can all see - how effective it is is something we will be able to debate for years