El Cid   216 #13 Posted November 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Anna B said: Don't kid yourself this is about anything more about raiding our pockets for cash. The government only cares about the environment when it suits them. It's all about generating money. Just like the current system of extortionate road fines are all about raising cash, nothing to do with  road safety. Even the police have admitted that. So taxing work/income is better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Padders   2,862 #14 Posted November 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Anna B said:  How long before they start charging us for the air we breathe? Well they have got us wearing masks at the moment.. I would imagine that in the not to distant future the air will become so polluted we will have to wear an oxygen mask to survive. Then of course they will charge you for a canister of oxygen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
iansheff   88 #15 Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) The Electric companies and their shareholders will be happy with the increase in profits due to the extra electricity being used charging vehicles. Edited November 17, 2020 by iansheff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   214 #16 Posted November 17, 2020 11 hours ago, Anna B said: Just like the current system of extortionate road fines are all about raising cash, nothing to do with  road safety. Even the police have admitted that. Just curious what "road fines" you think are extortionate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
carltoncdx   10 #17 Posted November 17, 2020 I wonder ow people will react to this idea when they realise every single thing they buy will go up in price. I can imagine the cost of running an HGV will be more eye watering than it i now. Personaly it would cost me dear which i would pass on to my customers, most of which are private individuals. Surely it would be better to tax the electric vehicles but then that wouldn't look very green would it!  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99   790 #18 Posted November 17, 2020 15 hours ago, Anna B said: Don't kid yourself this is about anything more about raiding our pockets for cash. The government only cares about the environment when it suits them. It's all about generating money. Just like the current system of extortionate road fines are all about raising cash, nothing to do with  road safety. Even the police have admitted that. My bold.  Road fines are optional. Near enough 40 years of motoring & never paid a penny of a fine because I don't drive or park where I shouldn't or break the speed limit, especially these days with all the cameras around.  At the end of the day, I wouldn't be without a car for the convenience & independence it gives me but I still recognise it's still a luxury rather than a necessity, living in a city. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B   1,410 #19 Posted November 17, 2020 9 hours ago, alchresearch said: Just curious what "road fines" you think are extortionate. £100 speeding fine for 34 mph on a Sunday afternoon when the roads were empty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #20 Posted November 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Anna B said: £100 speeding fine for 34 mph on a Sunday afternoon when the roads were empty. Why do you think that is excessive?  It seems proportionate to me, given the increased danger caused by driving at >10% over the limit.  Were you offered a speed awareness course? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B   1,410 #21 Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pettytom said: Why do you think that is excessive?  It seems proportionate to me, given the increased danger caused by driving at >10% over the limit.  Were you offered a speed awareness course? Halifax road. Speed limit changes from 30 to 40 and back to 30 again, very badly signposted. Maybe you should try looking at £100 as a percentage of weekly income? Yes I was offered a speed awareness course, £90 + petrol to get there, and an afternoon of my time. So not much difference. Edited November 17, 2020 by Anna B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Janus   28 #22 Posted November 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Anna B said: Halifax road. Speed limit changes from 30 to 40 and back to 30 again, very badly signposted. Maybe you should try looking at £100 as a percentage of weekly income? Yes I was offered a speed awareness course, £90 + petrol to get there, and an afternoon of my time. So not much difference. Insurance is affected for the next 5 years following points/speeding conviction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   216 #23 Posted November 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Anna B said: Halifax road. Speed limit changes from 30 to 40 and back to 30 again, very badly signposted. Maybe you should try looking at £100 as a percentage of weekly income? Yes I was offered a speed awareness course, £90 + petrol to get there, and an afternoon of my time. So not much difference. The amount you’re fined in court depends on what the speed limit was and how much over it you were driving. It’s usually a percentage of your weekly income, up to a maximum of £1,000; that sounds fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B   1,410 #24 Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, El Cid said: The amount you’re fined in court depends on what the speed limit was and how much over it you were driving. It’s usually a percentage of your weekly income, up to a maximum of £1,000; that sounds fair. I took the course for that very reason Janus. The guy taking it was actually very good, let us all have a good grumble first, (which we did.) This was a standard charge, didn't even know you could take it to court. How much does that cost the country? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...