Sheffield Freight Train Derailment Causes Major Travel Disruption

[Janus 28]

Just a heads up if intending to travel by train via Sheffield. Freight derailment causing disruption.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-54888642

[steep 11]

They are still dealing with this situation. At first they we’re going to have it sorted in a day.

[swarfendor437 14]

Just looked at that third photo down from the headlines captioned "The cause is not yet known" - You only have to look at the condition of the upright rolling stock to see that they are all probably due to be replaced (but profit margins would probably drop by too much!) You can clearly see a rusty spring at the front that appears to have sheared from the stanchion lying on the track to the right of the wheel nearest the ground.

[Guest busdriver1]

On 14/11/2020 at 12:23, swarfendor437 said:

Just looked at that third photo down from the headlines captioned "The cause is not yet known" - You only have to look at the condition of the upright rolling stock to see that they are all probably due to be replaced (but profit margins would probably drop by too much!) You can clearly see a rusty spring at the front that appears to have sheared from the stanchion lying on the track to the right of the wheel nearest the ground.

Oh an expert. Are you aware that springs are not painted before fitment and as such will show signs of rust from about 1 week after fitment? This is no way impairs their performance and they have this designed in.  They are held in place by gravity so when a train wagon falls on its side like this there is nothing to prevent it from coming free from its mounting. The wellbeing of any rolling stock is checked on a regular basis and potentially defective ( not not just defective) vehicles are set aside  until repaired and re tested. A family member of mine is involved in investigations of this nature and actually investigated a few accidents not too long ago and without fail, all were due to trackwork / signalling issues, but hey lets just jump to conclusions based on political viewpoints eh?

[Bargepole23 337]

On 14/11/2020 at 12:23, swarfendor437 said:

Just looked at that third photo down from the headlines captioned "The cause is not yet known" - You only have to look at the condition of the upright rolling stock to see that they are all probably due to be replaced (but profit margins would probably drop by too much!) You can clearly see a rusty spring at the front that appears to have sheared from the stanchion lying on the track to the right of the wheel nearest the ground.

So you have determined the cause by looking at some photos?

 

You know how embarrassingly uninformed you sound right?

[Jeffrey Shaw 90]

Sheaf Street was closed today [Su] in both directions due to several cranes being in place to right the overturned wagons.

Major traffic jams everywhere in the area; and Ponds Forge/Pond Hill virtually inaccessible.

[Janus 28]

Thank you Jeffrey. 

[Jeffrey Shaw 90]

BBC reported [0942hrs today] that Sheaf Street is now open again and trains are back to normal.

[Janus 28]

That is good news for all.🖒

[butlers 259]

On 14/11/2020 at 12:23, swarfendor437 said:

Just looked at that third photo down from the headlines captioned "The cause is not yet known" - You only have to look at the condition of the upright rolling stock to see that they are all probably due to be replaced (but profit margins would probably drop by too much!) You can clearly see a rusty spring at the front that appears to have sheared from the stanchion lying on the track to the right of the wheel nearest the ground.

From Breedon ,formerly Blue Circle Cement works at Hope

 

 

It was a points failure. Basically, the electrical connection tripped on the points where the rails cross over. This caused one of the carriages to go one way and the carriage behind it to go the other. The problem then is that all the other carriages crash into the back. So, it was a bit of a nightmare to say the least. In stations and depots, the max speed is actually only 5mph. So, it would never have been a bad derailment - however, in Sheffield station, they have an agreement that the max speed is 15mph due to the amount of through trains that they get. The problem with clearing it up is that each tanker was filled with cement. So, network rail had to actually empty each tanker of the cement before attempting to move it due to the weight - hence it taking nearly five days to repair and clear. It was just one of them things that happens with electrics every now and then.'
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jeffrey Shaw 90]

 

The Rail Accident Investigation Branch report is covered today by BBC News item at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-55132900 .  It blames broken rail track fastenings.

Edited November 30, 2020 by Jeffrey Shaw

[Guest busdriver1]

16 hours ago, Jeffrey Shaw said:

 

The Rail Accident Investigation Branch report is covered today by BBC News item at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-55132900 .  It blames broken rail track fastenings.

So not due to rusty springs then? Oh dear, Sherlock will be disappointed