Hidden Garden Endcliffe Park

[Rockers rule 673]

9 hours ago, Heartshome said:

Hi Rockers rule. Just a bit of extra info I found  for you.

Prior to moving to EVR  sometime after 1862, Henry Stephenson (snr) lived with his father John at Endcliffe Cres.

Endcliffe Vale Road - built between 1840/42.

No property on the Glen site - up to 1855.

Someone said it had 3 names - 1865-8 = The Grove - 1883 = Holly Bank - by 1888 The Glen - 1901 number 47 EVR 'The Glen'.

Henry Stephenson (snr) Mayor 1886 - Knighted 1886/7.     ( His son Henry Kenyon Stephenson was Mayor twice )

He died 1904 -  As frequent attenders, In 1906 Lady Emma presented St Augustin's Church  their bells and Clock in his memory.

She lived on at The Glen till her death in 1921.

The earliest sale of a flat I could find at The Glen complex was 1998.

OK  Heartshome 

Thank you Heartshome.

Doesn't seem have had much of a life span the big house.

1855 - to 1990 is only 135 even if we make it 1995 its still only 140 years.

I'm surmising because Viners were in trouble in the 1980's  and in fact went bankrupt in 1985 a decision (or bloody good offer) to sell the land was made and hence the apartments that are there now.

All interesting stuff.

I cant find when Ruben Viner died but he retired from the company in 1980 aged (aprox) 73.

 

Once again thank you.

 

 

 

[Heartshome 20]

5 hours ago, Rockers rule said:

Thank you Heartshome.

Doesn't seem have had much of a life span the big house.

1855 - to 1990 is only 135 even if we make it 1995 its still only 140 years.

I'm surmising because Viners were in trouble in the 1980's  and in fact went bankrupt in 1985 a decision (or bloody good offer) to sell the land was made and hence the apartments that are there now.

All interesting stuff.

I cant find when Ruben Viner died but he retired from the company in 1980 aged (aprox) 73.

 

Once again thank you.

 

 

 

Hia. Seems there were 2 Ruben Viners. 

One born 1908/9 - died 1993 aged  84

The other born 1920/24 - died 2008 no age given   

[Rockers rule 673]

Just now, Heartshome said:

Hia. Seems there were 2 Ruben Viners. 

One born 1908/9 - died 1993 aged  84

The other born 1920/24 - died 2008 no age given   

The one born 1920 ' 24 can't be the same because Ruben (of the Viners company) joined his father in the business in 1924.

Died in 1993 would make more sense reguarding when the apartments were built and 'the Glen's disappearance.

 

There is another entry for a Ruben Viner that states he died in 1966 which is strange because it states that he was the son of Adolphe and Emile.

I think we have it b 1908/09 d1993.

Keep up the good work Heartshome.

Rocker.

 

 

[goldenfleece 11]

Amazing. Going to check this out tomorrow. 

[goldenfleece 11]

Well I can't find access from the Endcliffe Park side. There is a very high wall perched on the brink of a steep bank. No sign of any doorways either. Some of it was a high wooden fence with barbed wire on it. 

 

Considering it's just apparently a few trees and a duck pond, that's a lot of work to go to. 

 

I will check out the other side from Endcliffe Vale Rd, The Glade, and The Glen. These roads may provide a better opportunity. It's quite a maze of apartments, car parks and small access roads from Google Earth in 3d, but some of those old footpaths must come out somewhere.