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50 minutes ago, atticus said:

It would be a 180 , what was I thinking !!

I don’t see the same Berge on the pitch as you do .

its all about opinions I suppose, let’s give it half a dozen games , who knows I might end up going the full 360 🙂

😀 You're probably right mate, I've taken a snapshot and formed an opinion. I'll have a better look next time their on the box if I get the chance.

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9 hours ago, steved32 said:

Berge is one-paced, can drop the shoulder occasionally, but is almost as much of a waste of money as  McBurnie the infrequent goal scorer.

 

If defence starts leaking... relegation beckons.

 

Sharp.  Got the coaching badges?  

😂😂😂😂😂 Don't have to warrant this with any sort of reply, it is comedy gold.

 

I try and be fair in opinion and I have to agree that McBurnie is yet to show anywhere near what we paid. He hasn't justified his fee or anywhere near yet. 

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Nothing to do with first two games but, Imo blades should get rid of

Mcburnie, great workrate but championship at best,

Mousset, not right attitude 

Mcgoldrick, too slow

Sharp, make him striking coach

Use any cash from first two towards signing Brewster & young Arsenal lad 

and loan King from Bournemouth 

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It's always going to be a fight for survival I'm afraid, last season was an exceptional season, and all credit to the Blades.

Without a top manager, huge investment, massive stadium they will struggle..

Chris Wilder has been magnificence, but without the proper tools I feel he has taken them as far as he can..

Personally I think Blades can thank Hendo for last seasons heroics, now he's gone, I fear the worst.

Hope I'm wrong..

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1 hour ago, Padders said:

It's always going to be a fight for survival I'm afraid, last season was an exceptional season, and all credit to the Blades.

Without a top manager, huge investment, massive stadium they will struggle..

Chris Wilder has been magnificence, but without the proper tools I feel he has taken them as far as he can..

Personally I think Blades can thank Hendo for last seasons heroics, now he's gone, I fear the worst.

Hope I'm wrong..

"Without the proper tools, I feel he has taken them as far as he can".......

 

Disagree completely! He has brought us to where we are now by bringing in the right tools for the right price. He has shown that you don't have to splash endless millions to be competitive in the highest league in the country. He has now brought in half a dozen or more signings and they are just settling into the team. Ramsdale has pulled off some quality saves already, but he is entitled to a few games in order to settle into this team. He is tried and tested in the premier league and whilst Bournemouth went down, it would have been much sooner had it not been for his heroics. Lowe and Bogle were both decent in the cup game and Burke is looking brighter and sharper with every game. Wilder is now looking for a proven goalscorer and is in advanced talks with some highly rated, young players. 

 

He is working the Wilder way. It is unorthodox compared to how other premier league teams do business, but even top managers are watching in admiration. Not one person has a right to discount him or write his team and methods off, as he has done nothing but deliver to date!.... personally I would love for us to be written off, because the team thrive off the criticism.

 

"Personally I think the blades can thank Hendon heroics for last season"....

 

Again I disagree....he's a cracking keeper and he had a decent season between the sticks. However, the actual OPTA ratings show that perhaps a large percentage of what Henderson has achieved, is more likely to be down to the fantastic defenders in front of him. In the end of season ratings... Egan, JOC and Basham, all finished high up the statistic tables, only bettered by the likes of Van Dijk and wan-bissaka. Like wise Enda and Bladock both rated high up the full back tables.......the tables are compiled using suck data as number of tackles, percentage of successful tackles, preventing goalscoring opportunities, aerial battles, important clearances etc.

 

Stats don't lie.... likewise hendo was up there in the stats charts, but perhaps not as mind blowing as you would have thought. Clean sheets speak for themselves, but other wasnt as stand out as you would think on other ratings. Ramsdale actually had higher stats in other columns.

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2 hours ago, pintor said:

Nothing to do with first two games but, Imo blades should get rid of

Mcburnie, great workrate but championship at best,

Mousset, not right attitude 

Mcgoldrick, too slow

Sharp, make him striking coach

Use any cash from first two towards signing Brewster & young Arsenal lad 

and loan King from Bournemouth 

I think by doing that United would be getting dragged into a financial situation they could well do without. Not sure what they paid for McBurnie but the £50m spent on Berge, the goalie and Moussett doesn't look well spent. At least McBurnie tries as well, he might not be up to much but he's a 100%er.

2 hours ago, Padders said:

It's always going to be a fight for survival I'm afraid, last season was an exceptional season, and all credit to the Blades.

Without a top manager, huge investment, massive stadium they will struggle..

Chris Wilder has been magnificence, but without the proper tools I feel he has taken them as far as he can..

Personally I think Blades can thank Hendo for last seasons heroics, now he's gone, I fear the worst.

Hope I'm wrong..

I reckon you're spot on here. It needed owners with some foresight. It could well be that Wilder has topped out and is a mirror image of Warnock, i.e. great 2nd level and below manager.

They should have gone and got a top manager, who exactly that should have been I really wouldn't know and it probably wouldn't have been a popular decision either but I believe United were in a similar situation to what Southampton were with Nigel Adkins. They had the foresight, got rid and never really looked back.

I think the one thing in Uniteds favour this year is West Brom and Fulham look certs for the drop, Burnley have internal issues, Villa, Newcastle and Brighton I'd have thought would be in the mix but may have enough, going to be interesting. 

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Come back towards the end of the season guys and please, continue to write us off!! It works wonders for our team of absolute workhorses.

 

Let's focus on the key points you have all made so far....

 

Berge, apparently not up to it?

Wilder now out of his depth without big money?

Relegation fodder?

Struggle without Hendo / Rammer a poor replacement?

 

Any more you want to add, more to laugh off come May! 

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4 minutes ago, cmonkes said:

Come back towards the end of the season guys and please, continue to write us off!! It works wonders for our team of absolute workhorses.

 

Let's focus on the key points you have all made so far....

 

Berge, apparently not up to it?

Wilder now out of his depth without big money?

Relegation fodder?

Struggle without Hendo / Rammer a poor replacement?

 

Any more you want to add, more to laugh off come May! 

I'm certainly not writing the Blades off, just got a few niggling doubts about which direction they are heading.

Time will tell, as you say..

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2 hours ago, Kelvin Phlats said:

I think by doing that United would be getting dragged into a financial situation they could well do without. Not sure what they paid for McBurnie but the £50m spent on Berge, the goalie and Moussett doesn't look well spent. At least McBurnie tries as well, he might not be up to much but he's a 100%er.

I reckon you're spot on here. It needed owners with some foresight. It could well be that Wilder has topped out and is a mirror image of Warnock, i.e. great 2nd level and below manager.

They should have gone and got a top manager, who exactly that should have been I really wouldn't know and it probably wouldn't have been a popular decision either but I believe United were in a similar situation to what Southampton were with Nigel Adkins. They had the foresight, got rid and never really looked back.

I think the one thing in Uniteds favour this year is West Brom and Fulham look certs for the drop, Burnley have internal issues, Villa, Newcastle and Brighton I'd have thought would be in the mix but may have enough, going to be interesting. 

Cant compare with Southampton, they sold most of their team over years for mega bucks,  Van dijk£75m, Shaw£30m, Alderwield£11m, Oxlade Chamberlain£15m  Lallana£25m,Mane£34m, etc, raising over £300m, then reinvested 

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2 hours ago, pintor said:

Cant compare with Southampton, they sold most of their team over years for mega bucks,  Van dijk£75m, Shaw£30m, Alderwield£11m, Oxlade Chamberlain£15m  Lallana£25m,Mane£34m, etc, raising over £300m, then reinvested 

That was the point, they raked in that money after getting rid of Adkins.

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13 hours ago, cmonkes said:

😂😂😂😂😂 Don't have to warrant this with any sort of reply, it is comedy gold.

 

I try and be fair in opinion and I have to agree that McBurnie is yet to show anywhere near what we paid. He hasn't justified his fee or anywhere near yet. 

Answered your own comedy gold...

 

Also, fear CW's in danger of becoming Colin's (aka NW) referee moaning.

 

And, disciplinary record is looking poor.

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So Wilder’s the new Warnock 🤣

Nice try

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