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Why is it too early to be talking about relegation? On a football forum? Really? 

Fact of the matter is I'm sure both United and Wednesdays management have been thinking about it. Relegation for either club would be a disaster.

United I reckon will be in the mix. The loss of that goalkeeper will hit them hard and the lad they've brought in doesn't look very good to be honest. I thought of the 3 goals he's conceded already in the league the other lad would have stopped at least 2 of them. The £22m signing late last season looks to be a mistake as well, I kept my eye on him the other night and he doesn't look up for the fight, just jogs around all game. Wilder needs to get him sorted. Then what happened to Moussett? Has he really fell foul of Wilders emotions?

Now that's a cool £50m along with wages to worry about, but having said all that I'd think United would be very unlucky to get relegated.

West Brom, Fulham I think will take 2 spots so the third place will be between, United (for reasons above) Burnley (Deep issues here with support for the manager), Newcastle, Villa and Southampton, with West Ham, Leeds and Brighton sitting just above these teams.

If I was to have a bet, i'd go West Brom, Fulham and Burnley. 

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Wilder may turn out like Warnock before him to be great at getting the most out of fairly average players that come in for little outlay and cementing them as as a team, as soon as they get money to spend they go to pieces.

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15 hours ago, Kelvin Phlats said:

Why is it too early to be talking about relegation? On a football forum? Really? 

Fact of the matter is I'm sure both United and Wednesdays management have been thinking about it. Relegation for either club would be a disaster.

United I reckon will be in the mix. The loss of that goalkeeper will hit them hard and the lad they've brought in doesn't look very good to be honest. I thought of the 3 goals he's conceded already in the league the other lad would have stopped at least 2 of them. The £22m signing late last season looks to be a mistake as well, I kept my eye on him the other night and he doesn't look up for the fight, just jogs around all game. Wilder needs to get him sorted. Then what happened to Moussett? Has he really fell foul of Wilders emotions?

Now that's a cool £50m along with wages to worry about, but having said all that I'd think United would be very unlucky to get relegated.

West Brom, Fulham I think will take 2 spots so the third place will be between, United (for reasons above) Burnley (Deep issues here with support for the manager), Newcastle, Villa and Southampton, with West Ham, Leeds and Brighton sitting just above these teams.

If I was to have a bet, i'd go West Brom, Fulham and Burnley. 

Mousset is recovering from ligament surgery on one of his toes. 

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The problem for me is the midfield, partly because Lundstram and Fleck aren't creating enough chances for the strikers but mainly because of the negative, defensive way they are set up. We're desperately needing a return to a system incorporating a number 10 behind 2 strikers, which would mean either inverting the midfield triangle or playing a back four with a midfield diamond, which would be my choice. If I was manager for a day and could pick the team against Leeds, I'd have Berge at the rear with Basham on the right, Osborn on the left and McGoldrick behind a front 2 of McBurnie and Burke. It might not work and we might concede goals but at least we'd pose an attacking threat and it would be more exciting than what we're seeing at the moment.

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Whilst Sheffield Wednesday fans are probably hoping and wishing away for relegation, I personally think that you lot have a greater chance of promotion and well.....there's a very slim chance of that happening isn't there.

 

As said above, Wolves are a fantastic team and they will be European contenders this season. Absolute class act, with a class manager.

 

Villa game....all stacked against us from the moment the red card went up. But even then we battled away and held our own. Perhaps should have walked out of that one with a point.

 

The new signings will compliment everything that we have in place and the gaffer is plucking away on the missing pieces of the jigsaw. We need goals, we know that, the gaffer and board know that. 

 

The duck needs to be broken and it will be. When it happens we will grind out results......to replicate the highs of last season is a massive ask, but it is'nt our objective... comfortable survival is.

 

Come back in March / April 👍

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On 23/09/2020 at 15:45, despritdan said:

The problem for me is the midfield, partly because Lundstram and Fleck aren't creating enough chances for the strikers but mainly because of the negative, defensive way they are set up. We're desperately needing a return to a system incorporating a number 10 behind 2 strikers, which would mean either inverting the midfield triangle or playing a back four with a midfield diamond, which would be my choice. If I was manager for a day and could pick the team against Leeds, I'd have Berge at the rear with Basham on the right, Osborn on the left and McGoldrick behind a front 2 of McBurnie and Burke. It might not work and we might concede goals but at least we'd pose an attacking threat and it would be more exciting than what we're seeing at the moment.

What's your thoughts on Berge? I purposefully watched him in the Villa game (IIRC) and he just wasn't trying at all, just constantly  jogging about with absolutely no effort at all. The goalie is going to struggle as well although I think he's a trier whereas Berge lacks effort, in my opinion of course.

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1 hour ago, Kelvin Phlats said:

What's your thoughts on Berge? I purposefully watched him in the Villa game (IIRC) and he just wasn't trying at all, just constantly  jogging about with absolutely no effort at all. The goalie is going to struggle as well although I think he's a trier whereas Berge lacks effort, in my opinion of course.

Are you a blade or from the blue half of the city? Because anybody who has watched Berge at the end of last season and during pre-season, has note just how much he has come along and what and absolute player he looks.

 

In fact, I would think that the only problem with Berge, will be keeping him at the club when he starts to show more of what he has. An absolute box to box midfielder, absolutely untouchable in possession. The ball literally glued to his feet as he drifted into the box. At 22 years old and playing like he does, he is destined to be world class.

 

Nothing like trying to throw negativity around. You're entitled to your opinion, even though a large majority of Blades fans will disagree with you. In fact a majority of football fans plural will disagree with you, but then again......tinted glasses do blur any sort of common sense.

 

As I said....come back in march / April.

Edited by cmonkes

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Must admit i've done a 360 on Berge.

I thought when we first signed him the game seemed to pass him by and he wanted too much time on the ball.

Now he seems to create his own space and he makes the game look easy. He can play the perfectly weighted through ball, we just need a striker to run on to them.

 

Its an early call ,but like cmonkes i think we might just have got a very special player on our books.

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1 hour ago, atticus said:

Must admit i've done a 360 on Berge.

I thought when we first signed him the game seemed to pass him by and he wanted too much time on the ball.

Now he seems to create his own space and he makes the game look easy. He can play the perfectly weighted through ball, we just need a striker to run on to them.

 

Its an early call ,but like cmonkes i think we might just have got a very special player on our books.

Would that be a 180 deg?😀

 

It's not often I watch United to be honest, having said that I watched the Wolves and Villa games. I think it was the Villa game I tracked him around the pitch and there wasn't much effort going in. I'm sure Wilder must have picked up on this as well. Having said that, that's what a lot of the players do these days when they've set themselves up for life.

Of course, this observation was but a small snapshot of the player and could be totally wrong or at least recoverable once the management teams gone to work on him. The effort he puts in can be increased by good management. The goalie though is another problem don't you think. I can see united missing the lad they had last season as the new lad doesn't seem very good at all. I reckon he'd have saved all 3 goals conceded if he'd still been there.

Going to be an interesting season this for both clubs.

Edited by Kelvin Phlats

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Berge is one-paced, can drop the shoulder occasionally, but is almost as much of a waste of money as  McBurnie the infrequent goal scorer.

 

If defence starts leaking... relegation beckons.

 

Sharp.  Got the coaching badges?  

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1 hour ago, Kelvin Phlats said:

Would that be a 180 deg?😀

 

It's not often I watch United to be honest, having said that I watched the Wolves and Villa games. I think it was the Villa game I tracked him around the pitch and there wasn't much effort going in. I'm sure Wilder must have picked up on this as well. Having said that, that's what a lot of the players do these days when they've set themselves up for life.

Of course, this observation was but a small snapshot of the player and could be totally wrong or at least recoverable once the management teams gone to work on him. The effort he puts in can be increased by good management. The goalie though is another problem don't you think. I can see united missing the lad they had last season as the new lad doesn't seem very good at all. I reckon he'd have saved all 3 goals conceded if he'd still been there.

Going to be an interesting season this for both clubs.

It would be a 180 , what was I thinking !!

I don’t see the same Berge on the pitch as you do .

its all about opinions I suppose, let’s give it half a dozen games , who knows I might end up going the full 360 🙂

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