The Labour Party - Part 2

[Consheff 0]

Me to especially for the lower Manor area it was in the top ten most deprived areas of the UK recently 

It should be people before party 

[tinfoilhat 11]

1 hour ago, RollingJ said:

Does this wallpaper issue have any real basis in fact, or is  it just conveniently trotted out in an attempt to paper over the abject failure of the main Opposition party to get its own house in order?

Enough for the electoral commission to get involved,  its moved beyond tittle tattle. If found guilty, it would result in a resignation in normal times, but Boris will laugh it off, mess his hair up, say something a bit near the knuckle and carry on as normal because that's what you have voted for.

[Mister M 1,625]

1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

Enough for the electoral commission to get involved,  its moved beyond tittle tattle. If found guilty, it would result in a resignation in normal times, but Boris will laugh it off, mess his hair up, say something a bit near the knuckle and carry on as normal because that's what you have voted for.

Johnson and his cronies want the Electoral Commission abolished or 'seriously reformed'

Tory party wants Electoral Commission abolished or reformed | The Independent

 

[Baron99 794]

So Angela Rayner has not so much fallen on her sword as been pushed on to it by Starmer: 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57037839.amp

 

Sacked as Party Chair & Campaign Coordinator.  Surely a proper leader should stand up & take responsibility for failure?   According to the story, Ms Rayner is also expected to be 'offered' another shadow Cabinet role in a re-shuffle.  I hear that Ulster is nice this time of year. 

 

John McDonnell, makes a point with his damming quote, that it's a "Cowardly avoidance of responsibility." 

 

According to the BBC this morning, Starmer is looking for an advisor to take them forward on election strategy.  I hear a Mr D Cummings is looking for work. 

Edited May 9, 2021 by Baron99

[andyofborg 11]

1 hour ago, Baron99 said:

So Angela Rayner has not so much fallen on her sword as been pushed on to it by Starmer: 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57037839.amp

 

Sacked as Party Chair & Campaign Coordinator.  Surely a proper leader should stand up & take responsibility for failure?   According to the story, Ms Rayner is also expected to be 'offered' another shadow Cabinet role in a re-shuffle.  I hear that Ulster is nice this time of year. 

 

John McDonnell, makes a point with his damming quote, that it's a "Cowardly avoidance of responsibility." 

 

According to the BBC this morning, Starmer is looking for an advisor to take them forward on election strategy.  I hear a Mr D Cummings is looking for work. 

A faliure of this magnitude is rarely the failure of one person. Starmer is clearly removing people who also bear some responsibility and possibly also don't fit with his plans for the future. An adjustment in people was always coming  and would always cause an argument, now is the best time to do it and allows him to move forwards with who he percieves as the right people in the right places. 

 

Should he resign? Not at the minute.  What good would it do? Six months of arguing amongst themselves for who? 

There isn't a clear replacement, especially one who would appeal enough to both ends of the party to make it any better,  However, for all the bad news, there is good news in there which points the way to recovery. 

 

[Baron99 794]

28 minutes ago, andyofborg said:

A faliure of this magnitude is rarely the failure of one person. Starmer is clearly removing people who also bear some responsibility and possibly also don't fit with his plans for the future. An adjustment in people was always coming  and would always cause an argument, now is the best time to do it and allows him to move forwards with who he percieves as the right people in the right places. 

 

Should he resign? Not at the minute.  What good would it do? Six months of arguing amongst themselves for who? 

There isn't a clear replacement, especially one who would appeal enough to both ends of the party to make it any better,  However, for all the bad news, there is good news in there which points the way to recovery. 

 

Come on, let's face it, when you cut through all the political speak all you get is Starmer virtually shouting, "Over there, yes, HER... YES IT'S ALL HER FAULT!" 

 

[andyofborg 11]

Just now, Baron99 said:

Come on, let's face it, when you cut through all the political speak all you get is Starmer virtually shouting, "Over there, yes, HER... YES IT'S ALL HER FAULT!" 

 

I dont think so. 

[Delbow 699]

40 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

Come on, let's face it, when you cut through all the political speak all you get is Starmer virtually shouting, "Over there, yes, HER... YES IT'S ALL HER FAULT!" 

 

Is this what "carrying the can" looks like? Maybe Starmer's legal mind has concocted a different meaning to that phrase than the one most of us think it has. 

[Baron99 794]

Blimey. It's not took him long has it?  Burnham can smell & taste blood better than a Great White.

https://news.sky.com/story/election-results-party-should-get-in-touch-if-they-need-me-labours-andy-burnham-does-not-dismiss-future-leadership-bid-12300272

 

No hat throwing from Sadiq Khan yet?  He must still be in bed?   He'd better hurry up. 

 

 

 

Edited May 9, 2021 by Baron99

[El Cid 219]

3 hours ago, Baron99 said:

So Angela Rayner has not so much fallen on her sword as been pushed on to it by Starmer:

You would expect a campaign manager to go, in a byelection; the same for a leader after a general election.

Corbyn stayed for 2 election failures, Ed Milliband just one.

 

[Delbow 699]

29 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

Blimey. It's not took him long has it?  Burnham can smell & taste blood better than a Great White.

https://news.sky.com/story/election-results-party-should-get-in-touch-if-they-need-me-labours-andy-burnham-does-not-dismiss-future-leadership-bid-12300272

 

No hat throwing from Sadiq Khan yet?  He must still be in bed?   He'd better hurry up. 

 

 

 

The English are too racist to ever vote for a brown person to be PM

[Baron99 794]

10 minutes ago, El Cid said:

You would expect a campaign manager to go, in a byelection; the same for a leader after a general election.

Corbyn stayed for 2 election failures, Ed Milliband just one.

 

But it doesn't appear that Rayner has been allowed the option to honourably resign does it?  That opportunity was clearly denied her - unless it was on the table & she refused to go? 

 

No doubt someone will spill the beans? 

Edited May 9, 2021 by Baron99